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Reply #135 - 08/19/15 at 19:32:49
 

Back to the very newest crop of actual factuals (dated August 17th) -- new information has come out about personal data is still being collected and sent to MS ongoing AFTER the user has completely opted out of all personal data collection and turned off all features that asked for it.

Read it, boys and girls,  it can be read to imply MS simply can't stop itself from checking you out intimately ---- and the EULA apparently permits this, too, btw.

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/76832/20150817/windows-10-user-data-sent-to...

"Windows 10 is sending private user data to Microsoft — even when all applicable privacy settings are de-activated by the user, according to a new report.

While some users are experiencing problems with various aspects of the upgrade, including Wi-Fi connectivity, Chrome browser, audio issues and automatic updates causing endless crash loops, most users and critics are generally pleased with the update.

That's more than can be said for the general response to Microsoft's new privacy settings, which were roundly criticized for allowing widespread collection of user data by the company.

While one solution appears to be opting out of the data collection by activating all available privacy settings, a new report indicates that even with those settings set to defeat all data collection, the company is still collecting some private user data."




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We turn to CNN Money for our reality check on this new information:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/technology/windows-10-privacy/

Is Windows 10 really a privacy nightmare?

Just read it for what it says, it says the privacy breaches are real but the reasons are "OK" with the MS EULA you signed            Roll Eyes         Tongue    


"Here are the main privacy gripes about Win10:

1)  Shares your personal information with Microsoft by default

By default, Windows 10 shares a lot of information about you with Microsoft. According to the company's privacy policy, Windows sends Microsoft everything you say to Cortana, Windows 10's Siri-like virtual assistant. It also collects your name and nickname, your recent calendar events, the names of the people in your appointments, and information about your contacts -- including their names and nicknames.

The good news: If you don't want to share that information, you can disable it.

The bad news: Microsoft has an incredible 13 separate privacy screens that you'll have to navigate through to shut off all information sharing.

2)  Borrows bandwidth from your home Internet connection

Windows 10 will use your Internet connection to help other people download apps or update their PCs.

If someone (let's call her Rebecca) is having trouble connecting to Microsoft's servers, Rebecca might instead download that update or app from you, a complete stranger.

It all happens in the background, without either of you ever knowing it.

It's a feature called Windows Update Delivery Optimization, and it's actually a potentially brilliant way to help Windows 10 users update their PCs faster by connecting to millions of different people instead of just Microsoft.

But Microsoft isn't upfront with customers about it. To turn it off, you'll have to navigate to a submenu ("Choose how updates are delivered") of a submenu ("Advanced options") within the settings app.

Microsoft should be more forthright that it's using your PC as an update server, and it should make turning the feature off easier.

3)  Can share your wireless password with your friends' PCs

Windows 10 includes a new feature called Wi-Fi Sense, which allows you to automatically log your friends onto your Wi-Fi network without ever giving them your password.

That freaked some people out, because Microsoft (MSFT, Tech30) is storing and delivering your Wi-Fi password, which can be a key to all your private photos.

In truth, there's really not much to worry about. Though Microsoft enables Wi-Fi Sense by default on Windows 10, it doesn't share your networks by default -- you have to choose to do that. When your friends connect via Wi-Fi Sense, they won't then, in turn, be able to share your network with their friends. Wi-Fi Sense encrypts your password, and it won't work on corporate networks with special security protocols. And you can opt out.

Still, Microsoft's all-or-nothing policy is potentially troubling. Choosing to share access to your Wi-Fi network with all your Facebook (FB, Tech30), Skype and Outlook.com contacts means your best friend will get access, but your stalker will too.

4)  Will continue to send information to Microsoft after you disable data-sharing settings

If you went to all 13 privacy pages and shut off all data sharing, you'll still share information with Microsoft.

As Ars Technica first reported, even if you disable Cortana and Bing queries in the search box, opening the Start Menu and typing -- anything -- will still send some data to Microsoft.

Microsoft said there's nothing nefarious going on there. It's not reading your search queries, just learning some basic habits about how you (and many others) are using search. It's not clear exactly what Microsoft means by that, but the company hinted that it's looking at broad behaviors. For example, it may be recording the simple fact that you searched for an item on your PC and how you initiated the search (a click vs. a keystroke).

"As part of delivering Windows 10 as a service, updates may be delivered to provide ongoing new features to Bing search, such as new visual layouts, styles and search code," a Microsoft spokeswoman said in a statement. "No query or search usage data is sent to Microsoft, in accordance with the customer's chosen privacy settings."

But, come on, Microsoft. Shouldn't there be a way to just opt out of all data being sent to you?

5)  Can scan for counterfeit games

Tech blog Alpha noted late last week that the Windows 10 license agreement everyone agrees to (without reading) includes language that seems to allow the company to scan your computer for pirated games and disable them at will.

"We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices."

This applies to Windows 10 services, such as Xbox Live, not Windows 10 itself. So Microsoft isn't scanning your PC for illegal copies of Halo. But it's written like it could -- and Microsoft should make that clearer in its privacy statement."
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Reply #136 - 08/20/15 at 11:45:34
 
 
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking/window...

ROKU forums and other streaming forums are beginning to discuss this little nugget which is Win10 is using so much of their bandwidth they can't stream their movies reliably all the time.

You see, its a multiple multiple hit -- once to get the big update to you, then a dozen more times to clone it out to other people you don't even know.   And that is per machine that you upgraded to Win 10 -- each one does this multiplier trick separately.

People with bandwidth caps are having the same "choke my router" issues except more pointedly it's costing them extra money to help push Microsoft's free win 10 upgrade and all the updates out to other people.

Households with three or more upgraded PCs find that the Win10 data suck is really affecting their monthly bandwidth usage.

It's like Microsoft assumed that everybody had a separate individual high speed internet connection (a high cap limit fast broadband connection).  

This isn't the case.

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Reply #137 - 08/22/15 at 14:50:02
 

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/212724-microsoft-kills-patch-notes-will-...

Microsoft kills patch notes, will no longer explain most Windows 10 updates



"Over the past few weeks, Microsoft has drawn increasing fire for its update policies. To date, Microsoft has released three KB Cumulative Updates (CUs) — KB 3081424 (August 5), KB 3081436 (August 12) and KB 3081438 (August 14). All are described in precisely the same way: “This update includes improvements to enhance the functionality of Windows 10.” All three cumulative updates contain an unexplained bug that traps some PCs in an endless reboot cycle, according to InfoWorld. Some users, who successfully installed the patch, have begun having trouble accessing the Windows Store and downloading updates from it. Others, who had problems with the store after the first CU, have reported that the second or third fixed their problem.

These cumulative updates are different from previous Windows Update releases in Windows 7 / 8.1. In the past, each KB was downloaded and applied individually, if Microsoft detected that the update should be offered to your system. Now, each cumulative update contains all previous updates. In theory, this allows for a streamlined download and installation process. In practice, it’s causing major problems. Microsoft no longer distinguishes between most security updates, feature updates, and bug fixes. It also gives no information about what bug fixes or feature updates do, which makes it nearly impossible to troubleshoot any given problem.

A troubleshooting nightmare

Going forward, there’s no way for users to tell which Windows patch caused a problem, if any. Microsoft may offer the ability to uninstall patches, but without some coherent method of determining which patches need to be uninstalled, there’s no way of telling what’s causing a problem. Short of using software products that monitor the registry and file system for every single change, it may not be possible to determine what changed or why it changed in every instance. Furthermore, what happens when a business or individual needs a security patch, but the feature update bundled along with it causes problems or breaks another aspect of the system? I’ll be the first to acknowledge that such issues are rare, but rare and “doesn’t happen” are not the same thing.

Microsoft’s stripped down communication model is essentially, “Trust us.” The company has yet to demonstrate that it deserves that kind of trust, and its decision to roll all updates together and say nothing about their contents could catastrophically backfire."


Microsoft has a trust issue -- they no longer trust you to know what they are doing to your machine because it is TOO EMBARRASSING to them.  

So, now they string together chains of fixes willy-nilly then  push them into your machine and then use your machine to fire the sets of fixes off to a dozen other people.    Bad part is the chain of updates may include some BAD FOR YOUR PARTICULAR MACHINE code inside them so MS has stripped off any "included in the KB" information that would possibly let folks figure out which one of the repeated and re-repeated chain of upgrade/updates did the dirty deed this time so it could be backed out of the machine.

And tomorrow you will get a new update chain pushed into your machine that includes most of what choked you down yesterday and the day before.   And once again, you will pay bandwidth to send it on to a dozen other people, gratis.

Reboot your Win 10 and write down how many seconds it takes to ID the updates for your machine.   Keep a log for a few weeks and watch the number of seconds grow and grow and grow.   Watch your hard drive light flash ongoing and your router line light flash and flash and flash and flash.    

See MS suck your high speed connection dry .....  then spend your $$$ exceeding your data cap ....... then by golly they will go do it again tomorrow.


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Reply #138 - 08/22/15 at 15:05:43
 

http://neurogadget.com/2015/08/20/windows-10-privacy-tools/13016

6 Windows 10 Incredible Privacy Tools That Will Stop It From Spying On You



"Without a doubt, Microsoft has well played with the privacy of its users through its Windows 10 OS. The new operating system has been, by default, configured to keep track of your usage and even keep an eye on your folders and files. Microsoft’s new privacy statement is indeed a scary one! It isn’t definitely a bad thing to update your privacy, but having all users selected by default is not a user-friendly privacy policy at all.

Since this has been such a widely publicized issue, there are now some tools available that can be used to help users take back their privacy in Windows 10. Given below are 6 different tools or apps that can stop Windows 10 from taking over your privacy:

DoNotSpy 10
DoNotSpy 10 is a new free app designed by German developer pXc-coding. This app is one of the most comprehensive privacy options for your Windows 10. It creates a centralized interface where Windows 10 users can easily adjust the settings related to those features which have a direct effect on privacy. There’s a caution, though: The app is a freeware, but it installs Open Candy software on your system which show ads automatically in other applications.

Windows 10 Privacy Fixer
Another free tool is the Windows 10 Privacy Fixer, which allow users to import their current privacy settings and then deactivate whichever features they want. The app comes with a compact interface to modify the important privacy settings on Windows 10. This is a useful app that allow users to disable four main services related to Microsoft telemetry and feedback, blocking the Telemetry hosts, making changes in the general privacy settings such as deactivating the unique advertising ID, and disabling app access to features such as location or calendar.

W10 Privacy
W10 Privacy app covers as many privacy settings as possible, but it is currently available only in German language and that makes it pretty unusable for many Windows 10 users. On launching the app, the interface shows privacy settings and general tweaks, and the first tab “Datenschutz”, which is the German word for “privacy”, displays privacy-related tweaks, most of which are self-explanatory.

Destroy Windows 10 Spying
Destroy Windows 10 Spying is a rather basic app that lets users enable a wide range of privacy settings in one simple interface only. The app focuses on a handful of privacy settings and tweaks. Users can use it to deactivate the spyware tasks in the “Task Scheduler”, turn on or turn off Windows Update, remove selected apps from the OS, or block Microsoft domains in the host files.

Disable Windows 10 Tracking
This one is similar to Destroy Windows 10 Spying tool. Functionality wise, it is the smallest tool but size wise it is the largest. It displays four privacy options, all of which focuses on deactivating tracking.

Windows 10 Privacy and Shite
This one is just a simple batch file that users need to download from Pastebin. This is how it works: create a new “.bat” file and paste its content to the newly created file. Afterwards upon running, the app will perform selected privacy tasks including uninstalling OneDrive, deactivating data logging services, and adding domains to the host files."


Highly skilled MS users are revolting against MS's attempts to own them and their computers.

MS is striking back by removing the needed details from the daily chains of patches and by shuffling the file names used by these various tools and putting it all back the way they want it to be.    (screw you, end user -- take that)

Vendors are throwing their hands up and backing away from it all for a bit as it is impossible to even know what Win10 will actually be driver and file-wise when tomorrow's update patch chain finishes executing ......

Smiley         The Empire Strikes Back .....

Where are those Ewoks and them tree trunks when you need them ??

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Reply #139 - 08/23/15 at 05:17:53
 

PC World is also covering the Win 10 issues about router crowding and high bandwidth usage for those having those issues.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955491/windows/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-us...

How to disable P2P updates in Windows 10
First, open the Start Menu and select Settings, then click Updates & Security.



Make sure Windows Update is selected in the left-hand navigation pane (it’s the default when you open Updates & Security) and then click Advanced Options in the main pane.



You’ll see a lot of options and checkboxes. Peruse them if you’d like, but for today’s task, you’ll want to click on Choose how updates are delivered.



Now you're on the page with the options that legislate how Windows 10 handles P2P updates. By default, Windows 10 will both send and receive updates from devices on your network and the Internet at large.



It’s the latter option that’s the potential data cap destroyer. Using the options on this page, you can opt to only allow P2P updates among machines on your local network, or disable them completely and rely on Microsoft’s servers alone—just like the good ol’ days.
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Reply #140 - 08/23/15 at 05:32:24
 

Other leading computing publications seem to be reversing their initial recommendations to go for the Win 10 upgrade based upon the amount and type of issues now seen.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2972298/microsoft-windows/10-reasons-you-sho...

and more pointedly

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2953655/microsoft-windows/windows-10-review-...


"The real question is whether Windows 10 deserves to supplant Windows 7. Despite substantial new functionality in Windows 10, Windows 7 users should wait until the upgrade train brings more improvements.

Many of the new features of Windows 10 do not seem ready for prime time, including the greatly modified Start menu with live tiles, the new Edge browser, Cortana, and the Continuum method of switching between mouse and touchscreen control. They all work well enough, yet they all lack key capabilities. The lesser tile-based Windows apps vary in quality from good (Mail, Calendar) to passable (Photos, Phone Companion) to barely breathing placeholders (People, Groove Music, Movies & TV).

The new Windows 10 Start with live tiles is a major departure from previous versions.
It seems obvious that Microsoft rushed the consumer version of Windows 10 out the door in time for back-to-school season. But the “real” Windows 10 (at least the “next final” version) won’t appear until October or thereabouts, in the form of Threshold 2. Think of TH2 as an accelerated Service Pack 1, ready for the enterprise.

Meanwhile, myriad questions remain unanswered. We know that Microsoft will force updates on Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro users who aren’t connected to update servers. That posture has already created problems, with an Nvidia driver hatched before its time and a patch that caused repeated Explorer restarts -- both in the past week. Those of us familiar with Microsoft’s Windows patching travails will face the future with some trepidation: How long until Microsoft force-feeds a bad patch, and how will Microsoft recover from it?"


Personally, at over 50 million users switched over it is literally too late for a MASS of people.   We are nearing the end of the 30 day go back window and the press has been too slow to signal that go back change -- many will simply have to ride the tiger now.

The best you can do now is research the issues that you see on your rig and learn how to turn off the items that give you notable issues.
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Reply #141 - 08/23/15 at 05:49:57
 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/10/free-windows-10-charges/

'Free' Windows 10 Now Looks A Terrible Deal

Is This A Two Year Con?

"So what does “two to four years” mean? Is it two or is it four?

In light of no official clarification from Microsoft the slides can help – if not result in formal conclusions. In a change of language Microsoft states device lifetime will be determined by “customer type” whereas it had previously stated it would be determined by “form factor”.

This may prove crucial. For example ‘Form factor’ should mean a phone where two years of support isn’t great, but survivable and similarly four years support for a tablet or PC which isn’t great but it is survivable. But defining by ‘customer type’ invokes Microsoft’s two main customer licence types: Home (average consumer) and Professional (prosumer/business).

By this new definition “two to four years” would mean two years free support for Windows 10 Home users regardless of their device type and up to four years free support for Windows 10 Pro users regardless of their device type.

Two years free support on a PC is garbage. It would see Windows 10 free support expire in 2017 while Windows 7 and Windows 8 free support doesn’t expire until January 2020 and 2023 respectively. Could this really happen? Again without Microsoft spelling it out we can’t say.

What’s more it also opens up an even bigger question: what follows the expiry of free support?"


Microsoft leaked some more of their secret black cat out of the bag at a Financial presentation and is getting hit hard by Forbes and ComputingWorld on exactly what the leakage means.

So, to put in short form -- Win 10 lasts 2-4 years (consumer vs business vs mobile) and after that slides into a pay me subscription model.

In two years MS hopes that people will be used to MS owning their computing experience completely and the user base will quit all that squealing and thrashing about that is occurring lately as the big antennas are being painfully inserted into unsuspecting user orifices.
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Reply #142 - 08/23/15 at 06:32:56
 

The latest wrinkle in the Win 10 Saga ......

If you have a Win 10 window in your task bar and you are "awaiting permission to upload" and it isn't doing anything for weeks -- you are very likely BROKEN and are not getting standard security updates for Win 7 or Win8/8.1 or anything else from Microsoft right now.    

You are just one of the 10s of thousands that have this "broken upgrader" illness.

According to this you need to fix your machine yourself -- which will also put you in a unique place where you can choose to stay at Win 7 having actually run time back to before the little upgrade window showed up on your PC.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2974479/microsoft-windows/how-to-get-rid-of-...

"You signed up for the Windows 10 upgrade, but now that the bits are ready, you're getting cold feet. I understand. But there's one little problem: Your Windows 7 or 8.1 machine won't install any updates until you install Windows 10. Windows Update may say, "Your upgrade to Windows 10 is ready," and if you check for updates, you get "Windows Update cannot currently check for updates, because you must first restart the computer so that a previous installation can be completed."

You may get a message that says, "Your upgrade is ready to install" and then, "Great, we'll get the upgrade started." I've seen hundreds of posts (and more than a few emails) from people stuck in the same boat. If you accepted the offer for Windows 10 and later decided that you aren't ready, Microsoft locks your machine into a situation where it's very difficult to say no.

I've been playing around with this problem for a couple of weeks, ran it through a dozen testers on AskWoody.com, and think that maybe -- maybe -- this approach may work. Please test it. The worst that'll happen is you'll end up in the same position, after 20 minutes to an hour of hassle, for which I apologize.

Try this:

Step 1. Wait until you have a spare hour. This is good to do before you head out to a meeting, to lunch, or at the end of the workday.

Step 2. Turn off Automatic Update. Go into Windows Update (in Win7, using an administrator-level account, click Start, Control Panel, and then System and Security; in Win8.1, while looking at the old-fashioned Windows desktop, hold down the Windows key and press X, then choose Control Panel, System and Security). Under Windows Update, choose this setting: "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download or install them."

Step 3. Hide the upgrade, if you can. In Windows Update, click Show all Available Updates. If you see an entry for Upgrade to Windows 10 (many of you won't), right-click on Upgrade to Windows 10 and choose Hide Update.

Step 4. Delete the installation files. In File Explorer, right-click on your C drive and choose Disk Cleanup. When Explorer comes up for air, click the box marked Clean up System files. When the list appears, check the box marked Temporary Installation Files (it'll be big -- 5.8GB or so). Click OK. There's a message that says "Are you sure you want to permanently delete?" Click Delete Files. Wait ... and wait ... patiently. Remember, this is Windows.

Step 5. Get rid of the GWX (Get Windows X) patches. Back in Control Panel, Add or Remove programs, on the left click View installed updates. Look for KB 2952664 (likely on Win7 systems) and KB 2976978 (likely on Win 8.1). Also look for KB 3035583 (both Win7 and Win 8.1). If you find any of them (hint: click the column heading to sort alphabetically), click on it, and click Uninstall. (t/h EP)

Step 6. Reboot. Windows will prompt you to reboot. Do it. And wait. And wait. It may take an hour to reboot.

Step 7. Permanently disable the GWX patches. The minute you've rebooted, go back in to Windows Update and "hide" KB 2952664, KB 2976978, and/or KB 3035583. To hide them, run Search for Updates, right-click on the entry and choose Hide. (t/h CT)

Step 8. For good luck, reboot again. That probably isn't necessary, but it'll kill off any process that thinks it should be downloading the Windows 10 installation files.

On the systems I've tested, that'll remove the downloaded Windows 10 files, the obnoxious nags in the system tray, and the "Your upgrade to Windows 10 is ready" notification in Windows Update. I'm not absolutely sure it'll work in all cases, but the worst case is you've lost some time -- you aren't twiddling with any registry settings or doing anything that might cripple your Win7 or Win8.1 system. It's strictly a home remedy, but Microsoft certainly isn't going to distribute a magic fix."

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Reply #143 - 08/23/15 at 09:47:30
 

https://torrentfreak.com/torrent-trackers-ban-windows-10-over-privacy-concerns-1
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Software sharing over torrents has a long history in Open Source software, especially in Europe.  And remember, countries like France and many others hold that software cannot be patented, and once dispersed it can be re-dispersed freely.   Thus, in these countries and in European Open Source in general, the new Windows 10 is beginning to smell very strongly like fresh raw sewage.

Having been watched very carefully, evidence may now be available that Microsoft has now been caught sending lists of the contents of your hard drive off to various anti-piracy organizations.

"Since the release of Windows 10 last month many media reports have focused on various privacy intrusions.

The WiFi password sharing feature, for example, or the extensive sharing of personal data and information back to Microsoft’s servers. The list goes on and on.


This week things took a turn for the worse. Slowly but steadily reports started pouring in that Windows 10 has a built-in piracy kill switch. If we were to believe some of the reports, Microsoft would like to nuke all torrents downloaded from The Pirate Bay.

Still, the recent privacy concerns have some torrent tracker staffers worried. During the week TF received reports informing us that several private trackers have banned Windows 10, or are considering doing so.

The staffers at iTS explain that Windows 10 is off-limits now because of the extensive amount of data it shares. This includes connections to MarkMonitor, the brand protection company which is also involved in the U.S. Copyright Alert System.

“We have also found [Windows 10] will be gathering information on users’ P2P use to be shared with anti piracy group,” BB staff writes to its users.

“What’s particularly nasty is that apparently it sends the results of local(!!) searches to a well known anti piracy company directly so as soon as you have one known p2p or scene release on your local disk … BAM!”




Sending the contents of your hard drive, sending your searches, reporting on what you download and sending your peer to peer communications off automatically to other anti-piracy groups violates several personal rights in lots of countries and here in the USA may be illegal unless backed up with an active search warrant.

Microsoft will get taken to court in the EU over such things, they can count on it.    Saying they are "cooperating with various US authorities" cuts no ice over in the EU when Microsoft is violating (for example) French law when they go do it.


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We got a confirmation on the Torrent guys banning Windows 10 permanently.    The given reason is because MS sending listings of your hard drive contents and montoring of your P2P communications to various litigation groups inside the USA.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/24/torrent-trackers-ban-windows-10/


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This is neatly ironic since MS itself is the largest P2P / torrent user in the world right now and they didn't even tell their users they were hijacking their internet bandwidth to push the massive traffic in Win 10 upgrades and updates along .....
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Reply #144 - 08/23/15 at 11:07:10
 



..... and who says Microsoft isn't moving to take over the world by guile and misdirection .....



..... see the Black Shirt Officers herding the confused Beta Testers into a good marching formation .....

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Re: Oh my! Windows 10 already?
Reply #145 - 08/23/15 at 18:40:20
 

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/77111/20150818/latest-windows-10-problems-a...

Latest Windows 10 Problems And Bugs: Screen Flickering And Flashing, Touchpad Issues, Lags And Page Freezes

"Many users are continuing to report issues with screen flickering. While some of these problems can be attributed to a previously reported issue with automatic updates that affected Nvidia drivers, the problem is still plaguing other users, some of whose task bars are also not functioning properly, for unknown reasons.



Some users are having trouble with their touchpads. According to one Tech Times commenter:

"...the touchpad will not respond to taps and will not scroll at all. Downloading windows update did not help, and downloading latest drivers for win 10 from Asus (brand of my PC) was no help. I have been able to go to task manager and quit some processes to get the pointer back, but any reboot results in the problem returning. All of this makes the PC virtually useless."

Another reader chimed in, saying, "I'm having the same problem with my touch pad, only my USB mouse is working (thank the gods)."

Other readers are experiencing lags: "Computer is lagging and freezing while typing" is a common complaint.

"Just finished installing Windows 10 and now it takes ages to type anything. This has taken me 5 mins already," one user shared, while another stated, "Windows 10 uploaded OK but now my pc is sooooooo slow it's painful."

Many users are so frustrated with the issues that they have aborted their Windows 10 upgrades and reverted back to the version they previously had installed. Others plan to do the same. One Tech Times reader summed up the feelings of many:

"I upgraded from Windows 7 as well and feel like nothing has improved. Even to open simple folders takes ages (even freezes sometimes) and NO COMMAND is working to close or reset my laptop. They said windows 10 will be faster and better. I find it twice as slow than before. I will definitely downgrade to my previous version."


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Microsoft has now pushed the Win 10 down deeper into the pre-sorted machine/age/diver pool now, and they are now finding their partially written hardware drivers and such to be becoming much more of a show stopper for these earlier, less current entrants.

As Microsoft swings their limited manning over to try to get ready for the Win10 Mobile and Continuum unveiling, you can expect the rate of fix on the desktop side to go way way down as relatively fewer resources will be allocated to fixing the ever increasing daily flow of bugs and bad drivers.

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...... and accordingly more and more users are hitting the "GO BACK TO WIN 7" button, realizing that waiting past 30 days means having to stay in bad driver land FOREVER, or until MS can get back around to working on it some.    

Go back to Win 7 and wait 1/2 or 3/4 of a year and try again, then go back to Win 7 again if you have to until such time your drivers get fixed or you see that they never will get fixed.

MS is also tending to take the classic cop out approach now more and more -- "This is your machine manufacturer's or your video card driver's problem to fix, not ours."

When you get this cop out response, immediately go back to Win 7 and stay there -- you have no Win 10 future to look forward to as none of these older vendors are in business any more to fix anything.

Any machine built by American machine makers using American vendor components falls into this class as they all went bust 5-7 years ago when all computer making went to the orient.    

HP and Dell are about it for domestic suppliers left any more, and all their components come from the orient for them now too.
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Re: Oh my! Windows 10 already?
Reply #146 - 08/23/15 at 20:18:55
 
I can't see any business accepting this level of non functionality let alone any one with back door security issues like win10 does.
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Re: Oh my! Windows 10 already?
Reply #147 - 08/23/15 at 22:06:47
 

No, they won't.   Plus they won't move for any revision that isn't going to last but another 2-4 years and then get replaced by yet another merry go round.    

They would be foolish to do so.

I'd be interested in the number of "Go Back to Win 7" button pushers compared to the total number of people upgraded.    

Fat chance of seeing that number, ever .....
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Re: Oh my! Windows 10 already?
Reply #148 - 08/24/15 at 05:57:43
 

OK, I threw up a poll to see what the group has seen on our own little sample of users.

Note that you can delete your response and put in a new one as your circumstances evolve.

You can also click for as many items as apply to you, not limited to just one response.
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Re: Oh my! Windows 10 already?
Reply #149 - 08/25/15 at 09:24:18
 

Well, this week we have more bugs reported and more apologists explaining what Microsoft really meant by throwing this and that open to your contact list and for perhaps sharing the contents of your hard drive with USA anti-piracy watchdog groups.   Not that good old Microsoft would ever actually DO that, of course .....      Roll Eyes

And all of the apologists also tell you in excruciating detail how to dig deep deep into the settings to turn off what you don't like.

In reading it, I was struck by how gawd awful COMPLICATED it was to do and how deeply involved in the programming some of these "features" actually are.

I was also struck by little things like this, where the apologist had to admit the flaw was unfortunately real and worse than he would prefer.  "Unfortunately, there's no granularity to the way you can share network access to your contacts -- in other words, you can only share with all your friends in, say, Facebook; you can't pick out individuals. It's essentially all or nothing."

Parallels are also being drawn by some pundits between Win 10 and Vista, in the sense that both were misunderstood technical marvels that actually far exceeded what the public really wanted out of an OS change.

So, they are also hopefully semi-wishing for the next OS wave that unscrews what Win 10 screwed up, as this one is hopefully going to be the Vista that leads to the next Win 7.

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