Klotz and Amsoil both have 1400 zddp.

bill67 wrote on 08/02/12 at 09:58:01:

How do you figure that?  If it didn't say motorcycle oil on it, how would you know it was for motorcycles?  

Bill has made up his mind that Rotella is not suitable for motorcycles. No amount of evidence to the contrary will convince him differently.

Charon says 1200 zddp is all you need because Klotz and amsoil have 1400 and Rotella only 1200,Theres other oils with more than 1400 zddp.

 
Also, Bill is not considering that Amisol and Klotz cost over twice as much per quart as Rotella T-6 costs ....

..... and around four (4) times as much as the dino Rotella T costs.  

For a stock Savage engine the white jug Rotella T dino 15w40 has all the ZDDP you need in it already and it costs $12.99 a gallon at your local Walmart.

Not $13.99 a single quart like Amisol or Klotz.



Bill, active denial doesn't become you.  

Rotella T and Rotella T-6 are motorcycle oils by definition of JASO and they have the sterling advantage for the Savage flat tappet engine of having 1200 PPM of ZDDP in them when many of the other "motorcycle oils" do not.

Are you really saying that SuzukiSavage.com should keep a listing of "Approved Savage Oils" in the tech section to keep all the newbies from buying the wrong stuff?

Actually, that isn't a half bad idea.

What would the criteria be for inclusion?

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/02/12 at 10:25:40:

agreed.  Now if the Savage or any motorcycle had the sump & filter capacity to actually warrant an extended change interval then I would migrate to a more expensive oil like Amisol like I use on my cages, but since the capacity of the filtration and sump is so small there is no need for using such an expensive oil as you can never get the benefits of it that it's designed for.

Charon wrote on 08/02/12 at 10:44:42:

Don't forget the most important thing - if it doesn't have a picture of a motorcycle, it can't possibly work.LMAO

I think that is a pretty good Idea. Just gotta lock bill out of it so he doesn't scare off any of the newbs to using oils that don't specifically have said pic of a motorcycle on the bottle.  

 
You do know that if we cook up some good "Recommended" criteria and lock the post with the recommended list on it to keep it from growing a bunch of nonsense comments, we would actually then have a tool for quickly answering newbie oil questions and for killing off any oil wars that crop up spontaneously.