ASML actually builds the super fine UltraEUV laser systems used to make the state of the art chipsets.

China is banned from getting these super fine UltraEUV laser systems, so they can order the stuff that they are allowed to use as used equipment from several Japanese companies ...... and then China can go build some Chinese stuff that is 3 generations back but is much better than not having anything at all.

Meanwhile, Intel is floundering along making some VERY SLOW progress in upgrading their Intel tech and rolling out (by inches) the Intel Foundry system.   Germany is not happy with Intel's slow progress on their German Fab complexes ...... but Germany isn't ready to pay 3x the original price for these complexes either.

Right now you can get a flow of new chiplets fresh from TSMC because of new CPU machinery being installed combined with the new conjoined ASML/TSMC packaging fabs that are being built in Arizona.  

Biden's money has begun to flow some now but TSMC isn't happy with the restrictive rules that come with the money.

AMD is able to get a flow of new chiplets and is rolling out new generations of stuff for testing with their hardware partners.   These get reported and fire off all the rumors we have been seeing.

RYZEN 5 and RYZEN 6 early samples have been built and tested.  AMD has plans to build at 4nm right now, 3nm later this summer and 2nm next year.  

As Intel cancels entire planned generations of Intel stuff as they get "overcome by events", AMD forges forward relentlessly ---- fully supported by TSMC.   TSMC development continues to move forward relentlessly propelled by Apple --- and as any new production capability comes open AMD is there to take what Apple isn't able to  use right then.

AMD can and does work with TSMC to design chiplets to use these new lithography levels.  Apple too is having some issues with 3nm chipset initial performance, so AMD is not out there alone with their 3nm issues.

Also AMD can "work away" any early production small lithography chiplets that have some production problems by using them in their processor assemblies as "efficiency" or little cores.  

Yes, you heard me correctly, AMD really only has one fully function main core design at 3nm and below, but AMD is willing to use any early production chiplet runs with "minor issues" as efficiency cores.  They match them up with AMD's mature trouble free 5nm core designs as the big cores ..... both AMD bigs and littles do two threads per core with the smaller 3nm cores actually packing more L-2 and L-3 memory per core (which actually bodes good for when the bugs get all worked out of those rather more powerful by design little cores)

If say a driver update winds up fixing these new design teething issues you mebbe could just wind up with a much more processor than what you paid for ......  

Once the early production problems are worked out, AMD will be doing a gangbusters business with these new smaller lithography much more energy efficient and powerful chiplets.

Point to make again, the new little efficiency cores that AMD just shipped in the recent samples have more L2 and L3 cache that the current existing main full power cores do.  And AMD is listing some assembled chiplet variants for next year that are built with nothing but lots and lots of these new little efficiency cores.

Yep, some brand new great big mainframe chipsets are coming that are made up of just these high efficiency "little" chiplet cores are sampling late this year .......

Intel is now doing some laptop stuff with TSMC's packaging of TSMC produced 5nm and 6nm Intel designed tiles.

When Intel toots their horn as a fab over this, realize that they (Intel) are buying their fab "capacity" from TSMC and are putting Intel's profit margin on top of what TSMC charges everybody for the same wafers .......

None of the tech used belongs to Intel.   Intel will lie about this set of details quite a bit, loudly claiming lithography sizes that are way smaller than the cheap, readily available TSMC lithography which is what Intel is actually using.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiOv...

Why is Intel having to do this?   Because AMD is running all over Intel using TSMC technology and Intel is at least 2-4 years away from having machinery that can do similar things.

Intel will get some TSMC sample chips made and then base Intel's power and efficiency claims off of those, then produce something roughly "similar" from their own rebuilt Intel production processes and then confuse and lie about it, ad nausium.

I just cut and pasted this sizeable chunk of stuff from another tab that was pointed back in time within the same thread on our our antique ABB motorcycle system, all the while running a browser tab using a Google chrome browser inside a Firefox instance.

This isn't really very possible, now is it?   Breaks lots of Microsoft Windows rules from years past ...... and tons of browser rules from both browsers, too.

I lack the processor head room to do instances of all of these systems all at the same time, and I certainly lack the permissions to move stuff freely between them.

So, do I need to get me a new machine yet?

Linux on an old 2009 Core 2 duo machine that is using a $24 SSD replacement drive.

This is arguably the oldest XP generation big box unit you would ever consider wasting your time on, but it still offers a lot of value and convenience for the $79 I paid for it, ($79 is also counting the $24 SSD drive I put in the bottom tray carrier after de-powering the huge slow spinning platter hard drive).

Still runs great for common tasks, it really does not require replacement at this time.

Linux Mint Mate supports it seamlessly, so I once again don't really need to go buy a replacement box right now.

Did I mention my most moldy Linux box is far faster than my wife's Win 10 machine?


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https://youtu.be/l5a9jEtP-vg?t=57

Just watch it.   Microsoft as a corporation has just changed over to Linux on their employee desktops.  Ditto for most of the big IT corporations.

This YouTube presentation gets into the why of the switchover, which are many of the same reasons I use Linux on my old cheapie Dell box.

NOTE:  The presenter of this video accepts the BS Mickysoft position that you have to change out your Windows PC every 3-4 years in order to "stay current".    This may be true for a Win 7 - Win 11 box, but it is NOT TRUE for a Linux box.

 This is complete BS, I am typing this on a 15 year old Dell Optiplex tower unit that is still sound operational hardware.  Linux still supports it while Win 10 has pretty much stopped supporting far younger devices than my crop of golden oldies.

Yes, Linux is free and it doesn't cost me penny to keep it current is still the main reason I use Linux.

Yes, the YouTube guy bends over backwards to give you both sides of ease of use and I agree with him that using the command line is a task too far for general consumer users.

I don't use the command line beyond cutting and pasting somebody else's script to fix a specific issue or to install a really stubborn something directly.

Mint/Ubuntu avoids this hassle point completely.   Software Manager in Mint does almost everything for you, and for something that is completely off the wall or totally bleeding edge there are cut and paste scripts and snaps and flatpacks for stuff like that now-a-days.  

In the end, maintaining a Windows machine is simply more time consuming than Linux Mint Mate and it sure has heck costs you a lot more of your very own personal money.   Getting your wallet plucked endlessly by Windows upgrades is something we all know about --- you need to take action to stop that BS on your home machines once you go on Social Security.

I am letting my wife sip the Linux soda pop using my old Mint Mate box as she deals with her Win 10 machine getting all cranky on her.   Mint Mate still looks and feels like XP and she grew up in that world.  MS keeps telling her to go buy a new Windows 11 machine and she keeps using my Linux box more and more and more as Win 10 loses functionality.

An issue with only having only two threads available on my most antique Dell box has cropped up just lately.   I commonly update my machine running the update in one tab and running a browser in the other.   Occasionally, I run out of threads when the Systems Update asks for use of two or more threads to handle its own update functions.

When this happens, I get the spinning pointer saying system is busy for a few minutes until the log jam clears itself.

Does this signal that the end is neigh for this old box ????

No, not really.   This is due to everybody supporting game stations that commonly (and quite often) get caught out with lack of system resource issues.  So the game boys learned to buffer "everything" to M-2 drives and to excess system memory that isn't currently in use whenever log jams start to occur.   And they do it seamlessly, so you don't even notice you are using resources from elsewhere ......

So my oldest box Linux box running Linux Mint Mate just keeps on trucking at speeds that make my wife's Windows 10 box jealous.

As we ponder Intel needing to get TSMC to build and assemble their chiplets for them (yes, Intel is going with "tiles" that are built to the Industry Accepted Chiplet Interconnect Standards at TSMC), let's take a brand new good look at the big progress chart again.



Right click on it and open the separate tab view, that way you can see all of the top quarter of the whole thing.

Lots of red, ain't it ?????

Intel has crashed down to new lows due to "no performance worth the latest high Intel costs" and AMD is now starting their own crash with the AMD crash being driven by "no customer demand for the newest highest priced highest performance chipsets ever".

As you look at it, just realize you simply cannot afford any of the top players any more as they all slowly approach 6 ghz .......  processor prices at the top end are doubling of late due to US Dollar declines vs the far east currencies.  

This all serves to help Intel to sell their old chip designs off of their old production equipment.


Wow.  Linus sees the same things that I saw.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ambaCzFTyo8&t=740s&ab_channel=LinusTechTips


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As I look for the sort of stuff I can afford, I see more old Dell machines running Linux.   I have no AMD in my future, nor any sort of modern Intel stuff as I cannot afford such luxurious sorts of stuff.

Being blunt, I could use an M-2 slot bearing add in card to support my old Dell equipment.   I could also use an affordable graphics card.

https://liliputing.com/arms-new-chip-designs-promise-performance-and-efficien...

Intel is stuck between its aging out its old stuff and getting TSMC to finally build and assemble some more modern better performing stuff for them
(just relatively more modern stuff, Intel's designs are NOT really state of the art by any body's guesstimate).

ARM/TSMC is currently building some REAL state of the art stuff for Apple, AMD and Qualcomm who is going to be putting it in laptops as well as tablets and phones.
Qualcomm intends to take some market share away from Intel and keep it forever.

So, Qualcomm has announced it is going to be wiping up on almost all of the old Intel stuff and some of the older Apple stuff as well.

How embarrassing for Intel -- lapped by Apple, AMD, Qualcomm and ARM ......


.......  oh, how the mighty have fallen  .......


Intel has once again taken to secretly dropping in dedicated video and AI processing units on their substrate boards, items that are specifically tailored to "fixing" those areas where competitors are drastically better than Intel.

Intel has done this version of "cheating" for decades now and has gotten quite good at beating a given benchmark.   This is why Benchmarks are now distributed over many items now a days to control Intel's past BS behaviors.

Since the next generation of Intel is chiplet based, look to see efforts to claim "industry leading advancements" over what use to be relatively simple cheats.  Intel will claim that it does not matter HOW they achieve their superior results, but only that they can get to those results during their tame 3rd party vendor's benchmark testing.