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Reply #60 - 07/24/12 at 23:46:32
 
that was the price I paid for that tire, just looked it up.
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Reply #61 - 07/25/12 at 02:12:17
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/24/12 at 19:11:13:
 
Miles 18,500  replaced both tires w/ Metzler
40,000 replaced rear    21,500 on first metz rear
52,600 replaced front
58,500 replaced rear    18,500 on second metz rear
78,505 replaced rear (caught 2 screws)  replaced w/ Perelli   Screwed tire still has a bit of tread on it.  Mounted on my spare rim.
79,534 pulled Perelli and went back to Metzler
83,000 replaced front  


58,500 - 40,000 = 18,500.  not 28,500
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Reply #62 - 07/25/12 at 06:35:04
 
 
Thanks for the catch, I just goofed.   I knew the 21,500 was the biggest number so I mighta/musta just typoed the 28,500 when I typed the cut note.

Check the sheet again, I put in Verslagen's $123.00 price on his skinny 16" tire that fits his modded bike's cast rim.   It helps him some, but not enough.   He now gets a cost per thousandth advantage of $0.13 but his softer V compound gives it all away still.

Moral of the story becomes this "Metzler makes a lot of ME 880 tires that have DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS -- you want to buy an ME 880 Marathon tire with the H compound to get the good mileage."


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Reply #63 - 07/25/12 at 06:42:07
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 06:35:04:
 
Moral of the story becomes this "Metzler makes a lot of ME 880 tires that have DIFFERENT COMPOUNDS -- you want to buy an ME 880 Marathon tire with the H compound to get the good mileage."
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I appreciate the insight.  I have always put the 140/80-15 on the rear, and it looks like that size only comes in the H compound anyway.
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Reply #64 - 07/25/12 at 07:02:19
 
 
On my bike I find the 140/90-15 size partially corrects the minor speedo error the Savage seems to have.  

You can have minor bolt head issues inside the fender with the right hand sissy bar rail (or if especially you have bag brackets mounted) if you ever want to try to go to that size.

Oddly enough, the Nexen doesn't seem to generate much of a speedo shift -- I back checked it against a bicycle speedo that was calibrated against 10 miles worth of interstate mile markers (about as accurate as real people can get other than expensive GPS devices) and my Nexen error is inside the thickness of the speedo needle.   The tire was not very much taller than the worn out 140/90-15 Dunlop that had no speedo error either.
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Reply #65 - 07/25/12 at 07:42:22
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 07:02:19:
 
On my bike I find the 140/90-15 size partially corrects the minor speedo error the Savage seems to have.  

You can have minor bolt head issues inside the fender with the right hand sissy bar rail (or if especially you have bag brackets mounted) if you ever want to try to go to that size.


I ran a 140/90-15 Dunlop before I went to Metzler, and had the bolt head issue.  Ground them down.
I use digital speedo's on both bikes.  I don't like looking at the tank to check my speed!
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Reply #66 - 07/25/12 at 09:28:08
 
I kinda want to get in on this. I need new tires but having only ridden once in April I'm dying to get back on the road. I won't be putting the new tires on until it's too cold to ride.


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Reply #67 - 07/25/12 at 09:38:33
 

So far, the tire to beat is an H compound Metzler Marathon ME 880 in size 140/80-15.

You can mount a 140/90-15 in the same tire if you are willing to grind on some bolt head up inside your fender.
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Reply #68 - 07/25/12 at 09:46:09
 
I didn't have to grind any bolt heads when I put a 140/90 15 Metzler on my bike. Maybe I got lucky on that.
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Reply #69 - 07/25/12 at 10:10:26
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 09:38:33:
So far, the tire to beat is an H compound Metzler Marathon ME 880 in size 140/80-15.

You can mount a 140/90-15 in the same tire if you are willing to grind on some bolt head up inside your fender.


The 140/90-15 will fit without modification.  The 150/90-15 requires either grinding the bolts inside the fender, or replacing them with button heads. Sad  You may also end up grinding some of the weld down in the front of the swingarm. Angry
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Reply #70 - 07/25/12 at 10:10:34
 

Most of the bolt grinders are installing "fire sale" Dunlops of varying types that are being dumped off by the dealers as their stock gets about ready to age out.

140/90 is kinda a rare size, so they are the ones that get moldy most often.

As a list, we can (and do) buy and use them up, gladly.
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Reply #71 - 07/25/12 at 10:15:13
 
Ok, I've finally got some info for you.  Tires are being put on as I type.

Pirelli MT66 140-90-15
5544 miles
tread depth: 0.298
tire $: 88
Shipping$ : free
install $:25
tube $:17
total $: 130



OF    Dave, we need your mileage at that point right along with the accurate depth of the tread at center line (not on a wear bar please) taken at the valve stem so as to get consistency between all of us over the years as they roll on by.
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Reply #72 - 07/25/12 at 10:15:21
 
SALB wrote on 07/25/12 at 10:10:26:
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 09:38:33:
So far, the tire to beat is an H compound Metzler Marathon ME 880 in size 140/80-15.

You can mount a 140/90-15 in the same tire if you are willing to grind on some bolt head up inside your fender.


The 140/90-15 will fit without modification.  The 150/90-15 requires either grinding the bolts inside the fender, or replacing them with button heads. Sad  You may also end up grinding some of the weld down in the front of the swingarm. Angry



Oh, my,  all that work for a 150/90-15.

And what would you have to do if you wanted to put in a 165/80r15 ?   Is it even possible?

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Reply #73 - 07/25/12 at 10:26:34
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 10:15:21:
SALB wrote on 07/25/12 at 10:10:26:
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 07/25/12 at 09:38:33:
So far, the tire to beat is an H compound Metzler Marathon ME 880 in size 140/80-15.

You can mount a 140/90-15 in the same tire if you are willing to grind on some bolt head up inside your fender.


The 140/90-15 will fit without modification.  The 150/90-15 requires either grinding the bolts inside the fender, or replacing them with button heads. Sad  You may also end up grinding some of the weld down in the front of the swingarm. Angry



Oh, my,  all that work for a 150/90-15.

And what would you have to do if you wanted to put in a 165/80r15 ?   Is it even possible?

Cheesy


I really didn't want the 150/90-15, but through a mistake in ordering, thats what I got. :'(  I didn't want to wait another week to get a 140/90-15 and pay the extra shipping, so I referred to this site, found out it could be done, and did it!  In retrospect, I wish I would have just sent it back.  But, as you point out, you can modify to your hearts content to make just about any tire fit! Wink
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Reply #74 - 07/25/12 at 10:42:42
 
 
But it is always good to have the smarter younger people who have actually done stuff like the 150/90-15 tire to share all the details to help out us old feeble minded geezers -- we need all the help we can get, don't you know it.  

We screw up a lot all the time now-a-days, V versus H compounds, 28,500 vs 18,500, heck we'd have no clue about changing them swingarm weld beads or complicated stuff like that.

Soon we'll all be lined up on the porch rocking right along with Bill and be a' talking to each other right along in Billish and a cacklin' and a grin'in with our toothless old grins  ....

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