I think I understand why the boys are grumbling at me about having to report the mounting & balancing charges -- they paid more to have their tire mounted than I paid for mine in total (even with tax, tube, mod hardware and all the rest added in with it).

I haven't paid full ticket for a bike tire in sooooo long I had no idea that stealerships were getting some major car type repair dollars for putting a tire under your fender for you.    Some of these numbers are flat crazy.

Maybe I should amortize my tire irons (bought in 1972 for $5.99 for a 3 part set) and toss in another few quarters to help them feel better.

LOOK AT THAT, the cost per thousandth of tread depth is very similar between the bike tires.   Within a nickel of variation so far .....

I think the Metzler rubber is a good bit more durable though.   That's why we need miles and miles and tons of miles to tell the whole story.

Verslagen, get yerself off that fence and go ahead and ring in --- you make tons of miles every year.   Ring your Metzler in as "new" and state the current tread height with your digital caliper as the spreadsheet doesn't care that it isn't really brand spanky new.   The yearly comparisons will be just fine calculation-wise.

I'm sure I could have shopped around for a better price on installation, but I figured

1. The local Suzuki stealership would do a fine job
and
2.  They matched the online tire price with no shipping

So I figured why kill myself to save a couple more sheckels.  

 
Carl needs to MEASURE his tread depth on his new
Metzler

Verslagen needs to tell us what his tire really cost (shipped, installed & everything)


Right now the spreadsheet contains Carl's cost and Verlagen's 5 month old mileage (the math is customized to allow the 5 month period Verslagen reported in) and the advertised Metzler 8mm tread depth.   The result of this collage of bullshit semi-data is very very approximate only, but it indicates a Metzler mebbe might just not be all it is cracked up to be by Metzler.  

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Hey, some real depth and dollar figures from the two participants might be a sorta nice thing about now, don't cha kinda mebbe think?



By simple math, Veslagen has worn almost half his tire tread depth away in 5,000 miles.   Thus his earlier comment, "In a couple of years I'll be able to tell you the real total mileage".   It won't take 2 years at his current rate of tread consumption.  This too indicates a Metzler might not be all it is cracked up to be cost/mileage wise.

We have very mixed data coming in on the Metzlers, we have old members claiming 18,000 miles with tread remaining and we have more recent tires generating much lower numbers.    

It is a puzzlement that the owner's wrist style and his road temperatures undoubtedly plays a part in.




Now, to deal with the spreadsheet being so durn small, right click on it and "Save image as" to your desktop, then open it and expand it as necessary with your own favorite tools.

Retread wrote on 07/24/12 at 06:54:45:


Tour master 230's  or 777's

 
Miles 18,500  replaced both tires w/ Metzler
40,000 replaced rear    21,500 on first metz rear
52,600 replaced front
58,500 replaced rear    18,500 on second metz rear
78,505 replaced rear (caught 2 screws)  replaced w/ Perelli   Screwed tire still has a bit of tread on it.  Mounted on my spare rim.
79,534 pulled Perelli and went back to Metzler
83,000 replaced front  


I'd say you got very very good mileage out of the first two Metzler rears you put on your bike.   The third tire that got screwed still had 20,005 miles on it.    Metzler ME 880 15"  tires cost ~$164.95 best price currently with zero shipping cost from Amazon.com.  

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000GV7CZ4/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=...

I'll punch in your 21,500 mile tire at those costs and we will see what sort of cost per mile numbers you generate.


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I did all that "paying for darksider development" last time, so when the 1 1/2" scar on my left wrist began to fade all past debts were considered paid and past tense.

But you notice I durn sure  figured out a way to lower the bead seating air pressures from over 90psi to below 60psi, now didn't you?


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When is a Metzler not a Metzler?


Answer, when it is one of those OTHER Metzler tires .....  
(and there is a shite pot full of them too)

http://www.us.metzelermoto.com/en_US/browser/attachments/pdf/2011_METZELER_DE...

Metzler Marathon ME 880 has two sizes that will fit on our bike ....

They have several different silica compounds (depending on what you are going to do with it)

You need to be very specific, you want the MAXIMUM TOURING MILEAGE tire and the H compound.

.... and I don't think the high mileage good one is the "V" for very high speed compound either, she's evaporating on you like my Dunlop did.

Verslagen didn't get what he mebbe thought he was getting.

Same thing might happen to you.



Dealership stock and "closeout prices" likely apply to WHAT THEY HAVE LEFT OVER after they sold all the good high mileage tires.

price update $123