Jets may have the same bore size but if the taper in and out are different they will flow different.

Clive W  

Well, I've been surfing this site since July and have read several topics, that's true.  I did not take particular note of which specific ranges of jets were mentioned nor by whom.  I can, however, assure you the Dynojet kit I have does indeed have a 146 main included in it (along with several others starting with a 138, I believe). I used the 146 today.  There was a stock Mikuni 145 in the carb to begin with and it did concern me that the largest in the kit was a 146 but from reading another post just today, it seems the Dynojet jets are different from the Minkuni jets.  In any case, it seems to be running pretty well though I do intend to get a handful of the Mikuni mains to play with because I think it's still a bit lean.  I also have a K&N direct replacement for the stock filter.  While I was in it I replaced the needle with the new Dynojet version and replaced all of the stock screws with stainless hex-head versions to make it easier to get to next time.

Also, I was unaware that any baffling existed on the Raaske since everyone always refers to it as a straight pipe.  I've never seen one in person.  Your note that it does contain baffles make me wonder if the MAC may not then be very similar in function, but as a slip-on rather than a full pipe.

Yup. I initially bought the kit about a month ago because I assumed it would have everything I'd need.  I am just learning about this bike.  I'm competent with tools, I understand the basics of an internal combustion engine and I am good with electrical systems.  However, I've never done any major work on a bike before... just stuff like oil changes, chain adjustments, etc. (and the last bike I had was over 15 years ago).  Any engine work I'd done in the past was cage 8-cylinders - 283's, 350's, etc. and that was in the 70's.  While I'm not afraid of doing my own wrenching (looking forward to it, in fact), I am still quite ignorant (the difference between ignorance and stupidity being that ignorance is correctable) and learning a lot.  I just wanted to let folks know where I am coming from.  I am nowhere near "well versed" or "knowledgeable"... just enjoying my bike and gaining from others' experience here.

Thanks to all of you.

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:


Oops.  Maybe I missed the part that you had gotten a Dynojet kit.  I thought that you were talking Mikuni jets.  My mistake.

In form and function you might say the Raask and Mac are similar.  Yes, it is a straight pipe but with a sound absorbing baffle tube in the last half.  It is available with an additional removable baffle (that stays removed on mine).

The big difference is the ID of the pipe.  Both the stock header and the Raask are double walled, as you know, but the difference is the ID of the inner wall at the exhaust port outlet.  The Raask is 1/4" larger in ID throught the header and then the baffle tube is also the same ID at the outlet.  So from this respect, the Raask is different and also freer flowing.

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:


Ah ha!  So you were withholding relevant information!  That's no fair.

Besides, just consider the consequences of a newbie joining this forum and hearing about a 146 main jet.  He'd look like a real idiot going to the dealer and asking for one    He'd never believe anything that he heard on SuzukiSavage.com after that too.  He might even go to one of the other forums and bad mouth us for not giving accurate information....it could be a disaster  

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:10:


Hey, it is all good.  I've heard of these kits and others have had them installed by a dealer.  That ended with no knowledge to share, because they couldn't say what was used or how.  You have the kit, and we can all learn something now.

Growing on you?  Yes, in deedie it do.

I had the Trapp for 2 years while my spouse stayed stock.  She'd constantly tell me that mine was too loud, or ask that she lead, so she wouldn't have to listen to it.  She said she liked hers quiet.

Then one day after I installed the Raask (as the Trapp lay forlorn and forgotten in the box) she says that she wants to try the Trapp (I was going to sell it).  She took the time to polish off the blue and we installed it.  Now you couldn't talk her out of it for anything.

Incidentally, I blued the Trapp while experimenting with jets and when I got them right, I never polished off the blue.  When we put it on hers, I changed the jets at the same time....the blue never came back.  That was over a year ago.

Okay (one more thing)...

Which one of you guys is gonna make a sound clip of the Mac?  I made the other 3 and need to complete the collection