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Re: Pullin trigger-94mm hicomp stage 3 PWK38-gaske
Reply #45 - 10/21/22 at 17:53:30
 
40 & 140 seems pretty good. No WOT bogging, but popping on deceleration from 1/4-0 throttle. Man, this thing moves! Happy to finally get it dialed in. Thanks everyone for your help!

Maybe I should go back to 42 pilot? Doesn't popping mean lean?
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Reply #46 - 10/21/22 at 19:42:54
 
Please confirm that I have your setup correct.  You have a 94mm Wiseco Flat-Top piston, Lancer's Stage III cam, a PWK 38 carb, a pod air filter, a stock header pipe, and some sort of Ryca muffler.  Your head is not ported.  Do I have your setup correct?  Did I miss anything?

Can you please post some pictures of your carb and air filter installation.  I need to see how your airfilter is installed.

Can you please post some pictures of your exhaust system.  I need to see how your muffler connects to your header, and what size baffle/outlet you have.  Also would be helpful if you had any manufacturer's data on the muffler.

Be careful with the #140 main jet.  It could be a bit on the lean side for the setup you are running.  A #140 is good for stock compression, but with the higher compression piston you probably should be running a #142 or #145.

To alleviate your "popping", set your idle speed at 1300 to 1400 rpm.  The higher idle speed is also better for your cam.

Where is the e-clip positioned in your slide needle?  There are five grooves in the needle.  Placing the e-clip in the top groove results in the leanest mid-range mixture.  Placing the e-clip in the bottom groove results in the richest mid-range mixture.  To help with the popping, try moving the e-clip to the next lower groove (one-groove richer).  Try the richer setting.  If raising the needle one-groove is not to your liking, simply put it back where it was.
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Re: Pullin trigger-94mm hicomp stage 3 PWK38-gaske
Reply #47 - 10/22/22 at 05:39:39
 
DragBikeMike wrote on 10/21/22 at 19:42:54:
Please confirm that I have your setup correct.  [shortened]  If raising the needle one-groove is not to your liking, simply put it back where it was.


DBM, you are a national treasure. Thanks for your help!

Yes, I have a RYCA muffler, K&N pod filter (pictured), Lancer 94mm flattop piston, Lancer stage 3 cam, stock header, not ported, PWK38 from JFG, and I'm running 92/93 octane. I'm about 150lbs and the bike has the RYCA Cafe racer kit

I'm dumb, and just realized how to remove the needle. The clip is in the middle groove (3 of 5).

I have more jets coming tomorrow. My muffler opening at the very back is 1 3/4". It's hard to tell, but I think the inside diameter is roughly the same (it's recessed in there). I'll try to find more info on it.
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Reply #48 - 10/22/22 at 05:42:01
 
Here's a pic of my muffler (I can't figure out how to do multiple pics in one post).
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Reply #49 - 10/22/22 at 05:43:14
 
Inside of the carb:
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Reply #50 - 10/22/22 at 10:50:43
 
Your air filter is waaaaaaaaaay too small.  It probably flows less than a stock flat panel filter.  There is almost no surface area.  You are smothering your engine.  Post a picture of the carb and filter installed on the engine so we can see if there is a simple way to install a better filter.
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Reply #51 - 10/22/22 at 10:56:33
 
Your main jet is a Mikuni main jet, or a knock-off of a Mikuni main jet.  If that round jet is a #140 Mikuni Large Round main jet, it should have a .055" orifice, which is equivalent in size to a #142 PWK main jet.  Although it might work, I suggest you use Keihin PWK jets or a known good equivalent.

This main jet is round.  It's also short which limits the available fuel in the float bowl.  It's the wrong jet for this carb.
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Reply #52 - 10/22/22 at 11:06:11
 
PWK jets look like this.  You can get genuine Keihin jets from Jets-R-Us.  They also carry a quality line of generic main jets for the PWK.  I use the generics; they work perfect and cost half as much.  Use the correct jets.  No one can help you if you use parts that aren't intended for the application and then don't tell us.

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Reply #53 - 10/22/22 at 11:10:52
 
I see your muffler has removeable internals (at least it looks like you can remove the internals).  Open it up and pull out the baffle.  Take some pics and post.  We need to be able to see if you have a free-flowing muffler.

Remove the screw/s that hold the end cap on and pull the guts out.  Post pics.  Let's see what ya got in there.
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Reply #54 - 10/22/22 at 11:14:17
 
Dave makes his own baffles for a similar muffler and it works great.  If you wanna make power, you gotta get the air in and the spent gas out.  There's no way around it.  Plug it up on either end and the results will be the same, no power.
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Reply #55 - 10/22/22 at 11:15:07
 
My 170 & 155 jet were the right size. This 140 is the only small one over used. I'll post pics ASAP. Thanks!
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Reply #56 - 10/22/22 at 11:21:08
 
If the rubber on the carburetor covers passages it's Not gonna run good.
The piston going down on the intake stroke is Trying to pull 652 cc of air through the filter. That would be okay on a small lawnmower. Imagine 650 cc of air being Sucked through that filter 1,800 times in a minute. That would be 3,600 rpm. The math just isn't coming to me, is thirty times a second? Feels wrong,, but it's working way too hard for a breath.
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Reply #57 - 10/22/22 at 11:54:32
 
You guys make a good point--I definitely didn't think about the air flow before. That tiny little filter barely fits with the RYCA modifications. It buts right up against the battery box. I'll take pics when I get home later.
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Reply #58 - 10/22/22 at 12:59:51
 
You may be able to put together a filter pipe to the carb that either has an "S" bend or a 45 degree bend to point the filter out the side of the bike.
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Reply #59 - 10/22/22 at 15:38:54
 
TheSneeze wrote on 10/22/22 at 12:59:51:
You may be able to put together a filter pipe to the carb that either has an "S" bend or a 45 degree bend to point the filter out the side of the bike.


Cool. I'm looking an Amazon for a bigger filter.

Destroyed the inside and outside of my muffler getting this baffle out 😭
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