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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #45 - 11/19/17 at 15:07:04 So it looks like the 'oil war' has taken a new turn. I'm waiting with bated breath. But will continue to breath meanwhile.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17834 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #46 - 11/20/17 at 05:03:04 OK.....so you have me confused (easy to do). There are 2 different T6 bottles to choose from? I have only seen the newer style bottle in the store.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #47 - 11/20/17 at 05:42:28 It took me a bit to get my head around it to Dave, it appears the CK-4 is the newer bottle ,taller and is labeled T-6 extreme temp(0n the same line),with the pics of the pickup and semi in the lower right corner and this is the one without moly, but has 1199 parts ZDDP.
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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #48 - 11/20/17 at 05:42:52 Yes, according to the report, and both containers are labeled as "extreme temperature". I am going to check what is available at two local WalMart stores today. I might also stop at Autozone and O'Reilly if I have time.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2629 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #49 - 11/20/17 at 06:21:39 This is getting interesting...making more popcorn....
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 17834 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #50 - 11/20/17 at 06:55:43 I have only seen the new bottle at Tractor Supply, Autozone, etc. There is a Flying J truck stop that caters to trucks that might have the other option.
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2629 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #51 - 11/20/17 at 08:01:10 The answer is always Amazon.... https://www.amazon.com/Shell-ROTELLA-Synthetic-Diesel-Engine/dp/B01LH7L0KS/re...
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Re: Trouble with Rotella T6?
Reply #52 - 11/20/17 at 08:29:28

batman wrote on 11/20/17 at 05:42:28:

It took me a bit to get my head around it to Dave, it appears the CK-4 is the newer bottle ,taller and is labeled T-6 extreme temp,with the pics of the pickup and semi in the lower right corner and this is the one without moly, but has 1199 parts ZDDP.

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What did the older bottle of T6 CJ4) look like and what was the appearance change to the CK4 bottle?

I also saw the site posted by someone of the T6, but if they BOTH are labeled "Extreme Temperature how will one be sure to get the one with no moly?

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Re: Trouble with Rotella T6?
Reply #53 - 11/20/17 at 10:15:51

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 11/20/17 at 08:29:28:

What did the older bottle of T6 CJ4) look like and what was the appearance change to the CK4 bottle?

I also saw the site posted by someone of the T6, but if they BOTH are labeled "Extreme Temperature how will one be sure to get the one with no moly?

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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #54 - 11/20/17 at 12:43:53 Just checked at WalMart, Autozone, and O'Reilly. The only T6 available is the newer CK4. WalMart is on par with Amazon for price (around $20 a gallon), O'Reilly price was $29.
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Re: Trouble with Rotella T6?
Reply #55 - 11/26/17 at 07:49:37

Here is PQIA's latest page on Diesel Oil HDEO information.
http://pqiamerica.com/HDEO_Sample_Summary_Dec_2016.html
Click on any of the oils for a VOA and description.
Be sure to click on bottle back label to read if it's JASO approved

You will see that Phosphorous is limited to ~1200ppm for diesel oil and ~800ppm for passenger car PCMO SN oils.
http://pqiamerica.com/PCMO_Sample_Summary_12_15_2016.html
Some 15W-40 oils are SN (PCMO) approved also so they will be limited to 800ppm.

Be sure to pick the right oil with the right approvals

They continually update their info so check back regularly.

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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #56 - 11/26/17 at 08:18:27 NB: The T6 on that site is the older CJ4.
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #57 - 11/26/17 at 09:08:35 Correct, and as I posted earlier the newer CK can be found here https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4490450/1/Shell_Rotella_
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Re: Trouble with Rotella T6?
Reply #58 - 11/27/17 at 07:57:36

Papa Bear wrote on 11/26/17 at 09:08:35:

Correct, and as I posted earlier the newer CK can be found here
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4490450/1/Shell_Rotella_

On charts like this one, how does one the calculate the ZDDP level from the data shown. I see Zinc & Phosphorous listed, but how do those numbers translate into ZDDP number?

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Trouble with Rotella T6? Reply #59 - 11/27/17 at 09:21:45 Very good question. One may wonder why PQIA wouldn't check the "ZDDP level" ... Further research and investigation will shine the light of truth on the issue Have you ever seen "ZDDP level" shown on a chart ?? Is ZDDP the only additive to introduce Zinc & Phosphorous into the oil ??
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