"Feeding the fake" through the ground wire was fairly completely debugged on the first few public tests by Uppsala University professors and engineers.    

Next, the lawsuit with Industrial Heat never claimed that Rossi didn't make enough heat during the one year test -- they claimed Rossi did not transfer all the knowledge to them as per the agreement as their own test units didn't work right when they built them.

Simple, easy to identify things like ground wires are not what is going on or Rossi would have been caught out by them by now.

Next, the current most modern E-Cat L starts the plasma up off a relatively small battery which powers up the start of the plasma cycle, after which the E-Cat L is a net producer of both electric power and heat.  And since E-Cat L is intended for mobile uses IT DOES NOT GET HOOKED UP TO WIRED HOUSE POWER CONNECTIONS at all so "feeding the fake" through the ground wire need not even try to apply as an explanation of the current E-Cat L devices.



HOWEVER, being realistic --- Rossi does have a very poor history with his partners, really he does.    

The only ones that have stuck around for any length of time are once again not selling or integrating his stuff with their products at this point in time.
 (they have unresolved issues with poor reactor durability and relatively low 1 year unit life spans)

That fact makes us all feel a little dubious that Rossi really has a saleable product right now.

Rossi will only sign on a partner with the signature of a very complex non-disclosure agreement that prevents partners from making any disclosure of why the relationship ended when it does end ......  and end they do,   yessiree ......   end they do.

Eegore, you need to be more familiar with the entire timeline.   You are asking moldy questions that were posed a LONG TIME AGO and an entire University sponsored test series was done after that generation of machines came and went.   Uppsala tests carefully handled the ground wire questions, so do your research on that.

Rossi now no longer does big public demos because of the time drain posed by questions like yours.   He said he would eventually do a new series of public demos to showcase his newest tech, but then due to virus lockdown travel restrictions the potential business partners had to send people to Rossi instead so Rossi achieved his demos privately.

Yes, Rossi got his new tech's partner testing done privately and ROSSI FAILED TO IMPRESS HIS CUSTOMERS CONCERNING REACTOR LIFE AND DURABILITY ISSUES.

He still has interested parties following his EV charging technology which is intended as remote or mobile tech that has no ground wire involved in it.


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In looking I found some timelines for Rossi that go way way way back.  The most exhaustive of which was put together by Steven B. Krivit, a very consistent and meticulous Rossi hater extraordinaire.   Krivit's timeline includes a lot of very tilted information from Krivit's own Rossi hating web pages.

Rossi tends to polarize people due to his manner, and he is so secretive it can cause even normal folks to instantly mistrust him.

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/RossiTimeline.shtml is the Rossi hater time line.

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/Andrea-Rossi-Energy-Catalyzer-Inves...

NEXT .....

Ian Bryce is an alternate skeptic that does not get along well with Krivit as they always argue as to how Rossi is cheating this time.

Ian Bryce also has a web page and has posted his own timeline which reads as a little less manic than some of Krivit's stuff.

https://skepticalinquirer.org/2019/05/rossis-e-cat-expose-of-a-claimed-cold-f...

Ian Bryce is the one who came up with your hot ground wire powering everything hypothesis, so read here to see it all explained.   Time line spot it as a pre-Industrial Heat issue thing, and then let it go as ground wire power was tested for in all post Industrial Heat tests that were done by various test groups.

The biggest remaining ground wire thing is that skeptic groups always seem to want the ground wire to be constantly monitored in all tests, as they NEED that ground wire to be a hot power supply so very desperately or else they might have to actually believe that the E-Cat actually works.  

Look boys, no ground wire exists in the current E-Cat L tests, so get over it.    

And yes, beamed microwaves has already been suggested (but nobody got their gonads toasted walking through the energetic beam path so you got to let that one go too).

https://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/energy/nuclear/nuclear-fusiontokamak-not...

“NASA researchers demonstrate the ability to fuse atoms inside room-temperature metals. … In fact, all they needed was a bit of metal, some hydrogen, and an electron accelerator. The team believes that their method, called lattice confinement fusion, could be a potential new power source for deep space missions. Aug 5, 2020”


NASA puts their web page back up with links to other NASA data and research data from others as well.

https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/science/lattice-confinement-fusion/

Cold fusion works, boys and girls ......  



NASA and your Federal Government says so.

Rossi had a 4 day short vacation break from his recent self pushed customer requested labors and Rossi (now mentally refreshed from the 4 day break) has come up with a refinement to the HAL programming that has apparently put his existing 1000 contacts E-Cat SKL prototype reactor up in the range of 95% electricity and only 5% heat while raising his charging output level from 5 watts continuous output to 20 watts continuous output .....   at 20 watts he has a good enough overnight battery charger for a smaller EV vehicle like a Nissan Leaf.

    wow !!!

Rossi sez he has beaten the top two items left for him as challenges (inside 2 months time no less) from his EV vehicle customer.

Bill Conley also points out that Rossi is moving so fast now-a-days he might could possibly skip on past something important in his rush to go make his newest variants.

https://e-catworld.com/2020/08/06/more-from-rossi-on-the-physics-behind-the-e...

Bill Conley
August 23, 2020 at 7:23 PM

Andrea,
My congratulations on the very rapid confirmation of 95%+ electric efficiency for the latest SKL variant. Folks at ECW are very excited about this tremendous achievement and look forward even more to the September testing and your subsequent presentation.

There are a few Physicists at ECW who believe strongly that the reaction at work in yielding the SKL’s tremendous energy output will also cause it to self-destruct (eat itself) over time.
(1) Are you satisfied that the SKL is durable for extended run times and will not materially degrade?
(2) If so, what has led you to that conclusion (i.e. detailed inspection of SKL reactor internals before/after extended runs).

Thanks in advance for your reply and general openness to our many questions.
Bill Conley



Take a deep breath and apply the "50% of what Rossi Sez" ratio to this last Rossi breakthrough --- it is still sounds like a fairly important breakthrough.

When Rossi demos this same breakthrough at only 50% as good as he claims (privately demoed of course) he should get at least one business partner taker to fund a first vehicle trial unit .....   then he can apply normal reality to what he has been doing.


This gives you a rough guess at battery capacity and rough time to charge at a constant 20 watts.

COMPANY      MODEL      KWH/100 MI      ANNUAL ELECTRICITY USAGE (KWH)
Tesla      Model S      27      3,600
Audi      e-tron          47      6,300
Hyundai      Kona        25      3,300
Kia      Soul EV            26      3,600
Chevy      Bolt EV     25      3,400
BMW      i3             28      3,700
Nissan      LEAF      27      3,600
Volkswagon            29      3,900
Honda      Clarity      29      3,900

OK, some more Rossi comment based "truth time" time --- Rossi's newest wrinkle has a wrinkle or two of its very own.  

Rossi admits to a slow oscillation of the electrical output level, at approximately a 10% level of variation over a 10 minute peak to peak cycle period.  

He expects to refine this slow cyclic variation to reduce it and to possibly to cause the overall 95% ratio of electricity to heat number to go up while doing so.

So Rossi will continue to work on the reactor and control system .....  and Rossi also plans work on a new refinement of the 1000 contact point reactor's construction (simplifying it and making it more suitable for bulk manufacture).

Rossi needs be able to easily build enough of these new reactors to do a preliminary "time to degrade" test series ---- he needs to know this information before he tries to sell it to somebody or to approach CSA or UL for certification.

https://e-catworld.com/2020/08/31/rossi-money-money-money-needed-to-go-to-war...

Folks have begun to warn Rossi about assassins and hit men coming to see him --- many of his supporters have asked him to duplicate his key data MULTIPLE TIMES in secure locations because of what happened with the FBI when Nikola Tesla abruptly died.

It sounds like a dream come true for an energy-hungry world trying to wean itself off fossil fuels. But the way Rossi is posting now, it sounds like major problems are just beginning, as he states today in response to a question today on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:

Calle H
August 30, 2020 at 7:33 AM
Dear Andrea,

It is easy to understand the impact the E-Cat will have on our society. On one side the elite will lose power when they no longer can control world energy flows. On another side the poor and energy dependant population will bear fruit for not having to pay the high price for energy as governed by the elite. On a third side the E-Cat will put a stop to the very source for climate change. Which of the three sides do you think will be most important when the E-Cat is introduced?

Thank you for your very impressive work.
Calle H

Andrea Rossi
August 30, 2020 at 12:43 PM
Calle H:
We will fight for the second and third way, but we will meet more bayonets than flowers and our foes will not be several idiots from some fora, as it happens now. At the beginning. This is why we are so prudent to start the battle. It will be a war, not a triumph. And to make a war you need three things:
1: money
2: money
3: money
Warm Regards,
A.R.

We have discussed extensively on this site over the years the impact a working E-Cat could have on the world. As Calle H mentions in his comment above, the E-Cat producing very cheap, clean energy would be a boon for producers and consumers, and an answer to the prayers of environmentalists the world over. But he also refers to powerful interests who would lose money and influence if current sources of energy are superseded.

For a long time, Rossi has repeatedly insisted that all energy sources could be integrated, but he hasn’t made that statement recently. Maybe because he thinks the E-Cat has improved to point where realistically it could realistically eclipse other power sources quite quickly.

Rossi has operated for many years largely ignored, I think partly because many people think he is either incompetent, delusional, or plain lying about the E-Cat. So long as the E-Cat stays in his lab, it is of little threat to the existing order. If his claims about the E-Cat are verified by credible outsiders, however, things will change dramatically, and I am sure he and those he is working with realize that.

If the E-Cat SKL is demonstrated to work very well, it could be considered such a threat to existing energy interests that they could try to find ways to snuff it out if it looks like it will compete in the marketplace. I think this is why Rossi is talking about preparing for war.

Pessimists are predicting Rossi will get squashed like a bug by "Big Money".

https://e-catworld.com/2020/09/04/rossi-no-radiation-of-any-kind-emitted-by-t...

Rossi: No Radiation of Any Kind Emitted by the E-Cat (Including ‘Strange Radiation)
Posted on September 4, 2020 • 0 Comments

Andrea Rossi has always shown respect to Russian physicist Dr. Alexander Parkhomov, and seems to hold his work in high esteem. Thus, after Parkhomov published data in 2018 from experiments in which ‘strange radiation’ was detected in his systems (see more here), Andrea Rossi apparently found it interesting enough to do experiments of his own to see if the E-Cat was producing similar effects.

Today, Rossi wrote the following in response to a question about whether he thought there was any risk of the E-Cat being dangerous from the production of strange radiation.

His response:

Andrea Rossi
September 3, 2020 at 3:22 PM

Brice:
I studied carefully the work of Dr Parkhomov about the “strange radiations” that I decided to take care of seriously and we made the same measurements he published to check if we have any similar result. We did not have any strange radiation, and it is to us obvious because of the structure of the Ecat SKL. We will be able to give a certification that the Ecat SKL does not emit any kind of known noxious radiation.
Thank you for your insight.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Rossi has contended recently that there is nothing about the E-Cat that could be considered dangerous in terms of any kind of radiation, and that it does not fall under the purview of any nuclear authority because the E-Cat does not operate from nuclear reactions.

Here is a comment from earlier this week:

Andrea Rossi
August 31, 2020 at 7:52 AM
KeithT:
We do not have nuclear reactions in the Ecat, we never detected ionizing radiations emitted by the Ecat, after thousands of measurements , among which measurements repeatedly made by the Government of Florida and by radiology departments of important universities. Our technology is based on electrons, not on nuclea, as explained in my theoretical paper
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/330601653_E-Cat_SK_and_long_range_par...
About the other issues, I deem them groundless.

Thank you for your advice.
Warm Regards,
A.R.


Rossi takes a clear stance on the issue of LENR (he isn't LENR based and has said so for nearly two years now)  and Rossi's E-Cat SKL has NO nuclear interactions at all and according to Rossi E-Cat SKL has no failure mechanisms that can emit any known forms of nuclear style ionizing particle radiation.

SKL is plasma based electrons spinning in concerted motion emitting some minor heat and light ,,,,,,,  that's all.

As such, Rossi says his E-Cat SKL is not subject to any more regulation than a plasma glow ball lamp.






HOWEVER, Rossi is naturally cautious and he already uses multi-layer opaque metal cooling shells in his heat transfer reactor constructions.   These would provide ample shielding should any Parkhomov reactions take place due to whatever whenever.  

Rossi's partners will very likely put other forms of personal safety prevention in place for whatever other identified items that they see as "outside chance" potential items.   For example, the light emitted can get to be too bright and tends towards the higher frequencies -- so the light needs to have no way of getting out of the reactor body itself in order to maintain proper eye safety.

Caution is the name of the game, after all.

From a 40 ft container, to a 20 foot container, to a pickup toolbox size, now down to a suitcase size, down to a couple of milk jugs in size, now down to 12 cigarette packs in size  ........

Outputs are doubling at least at each stage, now evolving away from heat towards pure electrical outputs.

Neat stuff, huh?