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Reply #90 - 06/05/17 at 15:16:25
 
MnSpring wrote on 06/05/17 at 13:43:19:
Then,  Finally, the People In That Area, will grow a pair, and take care, of the Problem, THEMSELVES.
THEN, things can go back to normal.

How Long will it take?   Most likely will depend on how many, ‘ Innocents’, are shot/killed.



Won't work, 1st in your analogy you have gang bangers roaming the streets doing whatever.
They get outta territory to make a hit... wrong house/right house... don't matter, someones dead.
Or they're spotted and ambushed by the rival gang.

Much different then an open society were everyone has permission to go where ever they please.
delivery man comes up to deliver a package, instead he stabs you to death.
Unless you got it on camera and your friends can chase him down and return his kindness upon him... whatcha gonna do?  Meet every stranger as a polite society should?
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Reply #91 - 06/05/17 at 15:55:40
 
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Republican Louisiana Rep. Clay Higgins wrote on his Facebook page Sunday that “every single Islamic suspect” should be hunted down and killed.



Don't worry, just don't go to Louisiana and you will be alright.  If ya do the jambalaya is fantastic.  

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Reply #92 - 06/05/17 at 16:27:40
 
Ariana Grande and her friends just did a good thing for the people of Manchester...
Nice to have some good news...

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Reply #93 - 06/05/17 at 16:46:11
 
So much better,, it's almost as if it never even happened.

What better way to fix stupid?

Invite killers into your house and pretend to be shocked when they kill people.
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Reply #94 - 06/05/17 at 16:59:51
 
I've got no problem with her concerts but all the talk this proves the terrorist won't win is a joke. They did their concert basically inside steel barricades and unbelievably heightened security. Doesn't that mean they already "won?"
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Reply #95 - 06/05/17 at 17:03:41
 
Kid walks outside carrying his baseball bat, dressed for football, hollering
I'm not afraid of you Billy..

Yeah, if the bully isn't declared the winner outright, he's sure as Hayull scored some points.
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Reply #96 - 06/05/17 at 18:41:33
 
verslagen1 wrote on 06/05/17 at 15:16:25:
Won't work, 1st in your analogy you have gang bangers roaming the streets doing whatever.
They get outta territory to make a hit... wrong house/right house... don't matter, someones dead.
Or they're spotted and ambushed by the rival gang.

Much different then an open society were everyone has permission to go where ever they please.
delivery man comes up to deliver a package, instead he stabs you to death.
Unless you got it on camera and your friends can chase him down and return his kindness upon him... whatcha gonna do?  Meet every stranger as a polite society should?


I Disagree.  

If were sitting on the back porch, could have a good discussion, because, even if we ‘disagree’, I believe we would allow each other to make points, and, I believe, we could each move closer to agreeing.

Yes, gang in ‘B’ in, (Their home turf), is spotted by, gang ‘C’, cursing through, ‘B,s’  Turf.
They start shooting,  (No one really cares, it just cleans up the gene pool)
   BUT, a little girl doing her homework, gets Killed.’
Media, talking heads, Politicians, ‘experts’ etc, etc, etc, descend.

Do all the people, living in that neighborhood, Know, the people in, ‘gang C’, ?
Did they see, ‘gang C’, drive through ?
    (Maybe not one time, but out of  100’s ?)
Do they say anything ?

And Yes, the UPS guy, delivering a package, ‘could be’ a member of gang  B or C, and Stab me.
But I don’t  Live in that neighborhood.
The area I live in,   gang  B or C, would not even Dream about going into.
(Not Just me), but  EVERYBODY, in ’this’, neighborhood.

It’s called, ‘Observation’,
A example, last summer, a car came down the drive, very slowly.
(Gravel Drive so attuned to it.)
It was a rusted , Chrysler, mini van, had a Magnet sign on the door,  which was good, but still see it was hand lettered:
‘Vacuum Cleaners For Sale”
2 got out,  “This is yous house?”  No I said, this is my office, my house is far away.
 (Actually about 300 yards in the woods)
“Well where is yous house, we speak to da misses”
Noticing the, ’Thrift’ store clothing,  and the  VERY  SKINNY  Ties,
  (When did that they out of fashion ?)
I asked:  “Why do you want to know”  
They said, “We go in yous house, and damastrate the vacuum we are selling”

At that point, I stepped closer, and in a calm voice said:
‘We don’t want a new vacuum, we have one, so don’t come down this private drive again”
They,  Hoped in to the rusted out car, and said:
  “F… You, we will go where we want”

2 weeks later, a car went off the road, (I live on a nasty corner)
No one was hurt, but the Police were their. I walked to the end of the drive, saw one I knew and started talking as the tow truck was pulling the car out of the ditch.
Told him about the two people.,
He said:,  “Yea  Yotta of reports describing the SAME people, and in the towns, (One is 3 miles one is 4 miles away) their have been a  Lot of  Robberies reported".

Guess, some, were paying attention, some were not !

But when gang, B or C,  shoots up, the other’s neighborhood,
  NO ONE KNOW Who They Are ???????
After a  Decade +,  of that happening each week,
NO  ONE  SAW  Anything?
It is time, for those 90%  (+/-) % of people,
living in that/those, neighborhoods,
to Stand UP, and say:
 “Enough of the P.C.,  Liberal,  Progressives, WE, will clean up, OUR, neighborhood”
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Re: Manchester
Reply #97 - 06/05/17 at 18:46:04
 
So sad, yet funny to see all the cons living in terror.

They just want/need someone to blame....

How typical.
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Reply #98 - 06/05/17 at 18:52:00
 
Miss Grande appears to be a nice young lady, and her concert was a nice gesture that undoubtedly made a lot of people feel better.

Unfortunately "feeling better" isn't what is needed. Muslim extremists have declared war on Western civilization and they will not be defeated or deterred by symbolism or "understanding" and "tolerance".

What's more, they have now developed one of the most important assets that a grass roots, guerilla insurgency needs to be ultimately victorious, a supportive cohesive community from which they can operate, and which provides a safe place for them to hide and plan their attacks. That community now exists in London, in Manchester,in Paris and it other large European cities which harbor large, and growing Islamic ghettos. That community and support infrastructure is the so called "moderate" Muslims who, while they won't yet participate in these acts, tacitly approve of them. Otherwise why would they allow the vermin to flourish in their midst ?  

Importing more immigrants, or more refugees from Muslim countries isn't even the issue any more either. These places are now quite capable of producing their own home grown extremist murderers from their own naturalised citizens, on their own soil.


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Reply #99 - 06/05/17 at 19:13:04
 
T And T Garage wrote on 06/05/17 at 18:46:04:
So sad, yet funny to see all the cons living in terror. They just want/need someone to blame....  How typical.


No Crumbs to throw over the Bridge today.

    Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #100 - 06/05/17 at 21:41:03
 
So far, I believe it is 100%, or nearly so,... these people are "radicalised" , not radicals...
That means,.. they are not imported terrorists,... but people turned to terrorism...
Not radical terrorists,.. but citizens turned to terror...

You won't win them with more intolerance... restrictions... bans...
They are already here...
Our actions feed the narrative that fuels there conversion...
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Reply #101 - 06/06/17 at 08:44:45
 
And why does a father kill his daughter?  Or any other honor killing?
Date the wrong guy, Talk about the bible, question the Quran.

By our standards, they're all radical.
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Reply #102 - 06/06/17 at 08:47:51
 
verslagen1 wrote on 06/06/17 at 08:44:45:
And why does a father kill his daughter?  Or any other honor killing?
Date the wrong guy, Talk about the bible, question the Quran.

By our standards, they're all radical.


Who's this "our" you speak of?

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Reply #103 - 06/06/17 at 09:04:12
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/05/17 at 21:41:03:
So far, I believe it is 100%, or nearly so,... these people are "radicalised" , not radicals...   That means,.. they are not imported terrorists,... but people turned to terrorism...   Not radical terrorists,.. but citizens turned to terror...   You won't win them with more intolerance... restrictions... bans...   They are already here...  Our actions feed the narrative that fuels there conversion...



First is the: “100%, or nearly so”. Statement that the radicals/terrorists, are  Citizens of the USA.
     I don’t believe it is true.
One will have to find all the Stats, to determine this.
One thing, the stats will skew, is all the, ’refugees’, that were, BROUGHT, to Minn,
     With  OUT,  Vetting.
Those parents, (most never became Citizens), had children, and the children are Citizens.
But what influence, happened in their up bringing, that a Very High %, wanted to JOIN  ISIS ???

They were brought up, in the exact same Environment, as ALL the other kids around them.
(In fact, they on average, got more, because the Churches, and the people that brought them here, gave them ‘extra’ things, above what the Government gave them)

So again, why such a  HIGH  %, turn to ISIS,  vs, ALL others around them?
Was it influence, by their Parents?
Was it influence, by a  Cleric, in a  Mosque?
Was it a influence, by a social media, in connection with a ISIS group?

It sure the hell was not:
ice-cream, dances, movies, cars, girls/boys, beer, skiing, fishing, skiing, soccer, football, baseball, and On and ON.
ALL, the things, that, ALL, grew up, discovering/experimenting with.
Exactly, what, was in the influence, that turned the Very HIGH  % of the, ‘refugees children’, to love ISIS ???

Now this statement:  “You won’t win them with more intolerance..”
So, how, in your thoughts, do you do it?
How do you ’teach’, the refugees, that in, ’this’, Country.
Beheading, Blowing up, Stoning, Cutting Off Clits, Killing people, because they don’t believe what you believe, etc.
      Is  NOT, accepted behavior?
How do you propose to, ’Teach’, that,  ‘sharia law’, is Null and Void in this Nation?

It is apparent, that growing up from a baby, in this Country,
and having, being exposed, to everything that, Everyone else was.
Does not work.
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Reply #104 - 06/06/17 at 10:38:33
 
T And T Garage wrote on 06/05/17 at 18:46:04:
So sad, yet funny to see all the cons living in terror.

They just want/need someone to blame....


Tell it to them.....







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