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Reply #75 - 06/04/17 at 05:40:55
 
Until these mythical moderate Muslims turn on the radical Islamist in their midst, this isn't going away. The Boston bombers were children of refugees who lived most of their lives in US. Thanks to traitorous politicians, mostly liberals but not all, we have millions of potential timebombs in our neighborhoods who will also grow up being poisoned not just by radical Islam but by liberal ideology which has an antiAmerican hatred as its foundation.

The military and law enforcement can't possibly identify them all but other Muslims can. Muslims have to root them out. Muslims have to turn on them. I keep hearing these terrorist do not represent Islam, well then prove it. I want to read about a Muslim mob burning an extremist mosque to the ground and outing the killers in training. If law enforcement doesn't follow up, I want to see them take matters into their own hands.
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Reply #76 - 06/04/17 at 06:06:32
 
I'm sure all that will happen, probably within days of all the Good cops turning on their Bad cop buddies and Not Insane left slaps some sense into the ones who point and pretend THEY are Critical Thinkers, but continue to only accept what they are Told by some million dollar face.. And they don't have Sense enough to Look at the situation and conclude
Assad didn't do it.
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Reply #77 - 06/04/17 at 06:17:10
 
If we instituted proper immigration controls right this second, we've still got 30 years or more to live with what we've invited in just so Democrats can pick up more votes.
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Reply #78 - 06/04/17 at 06:31:04
 
I don't Think that's the Why, it's less visible than that. Understand what
Left Cover and Right Cover are. Certain things are done By one side or the other, because they are expected to do such, but it Actually is being proposed and driven by the unelected policy makers. You're watching our society slowly diluted until the White/Right is taken down, and Cloward and Pivens study on How to Destroy a Society is slowly becoming a reality. This suicidal idea of importing people who are not even slightly American in their ways, despise America because WE caused them to be Refugees AND we are generally Christian, whom they hate,  it's not about votes, it's about division and cost and the Need for More Law Enforcement in order to Maintain Order.
Wait ten years,, and what I say won't look goofy.
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Reply #79 - 06/04/17 at 07:05:54
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/04/17 at 05:40:55:
Until these mythical moderate Muslims turn on the radical Islamist in their midst, this isn't going away. The Boston bombers were children of refugees who lived most of their lives in US. Thanks to traitorous politicians, mostly liberals but not all, we have millions of potential timebombs in our neighborhoods who will also grow up being poisoned not just by radical Islam but by liberal ideology which has an antiAmerican hatred as its foundation.

The military and law enforcement can't possibly identify them all but other Muslims can. Muslims have to root them out. Muslims have to turn on them. I keep hearing these terrorist do not represent Islam, well then prove it. I want to read about a Muslim mob burning an extremist mosque to the ground and outing the killers in training. If law enforcement doesn't follow up, I want to see them take matters into their own hands.


Web, I hear you, however, to cave to that fear, they win......
I believe this was/is, their end game, to show the capitalist pigs, as hypocrites to their own laws.....
That we are liars, mere egotistical SOB's who dictate so much policy around the world, yet exposed, shows that we are nothing but over compensating our collective inferiority complex.

American elitism, lets look at its definition:

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism  (ĭ-lē′tĭz′əm, ā-lē′-)
n.
1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their superiority, as in intelligence, social standing, or wealth.
2.
a. Behavior arising from or indicative of such a belief.
b. Control, rule, or domination by the members of an elite.  


Yes, much of this mindset, and display, can be directly associated to liberalism, which, when viewed with the definition above, is easy to see.
That in fact, when you factor in their hold on the media, academia, etc, and how they propagandize, instead of engaging in dialogue and debating opposing views, and beliefs, it becomes pretty apparent to all but its own members of the elite group.

However, they didn't event this behavior.
It can readily be aligned to just about any power movement throughout history, and most certainly through world religions, even here in the states.....

So yes, it is a mitigating circumstance, but by itself, lacks the capacity to "make" others react accordingly, unless that is their motivation to begin with....
Example, all the lefts protest on campuses, cities, etc, re: Trump.
All this energy is self consuming, and only serves their agenda, not resolution....
Fact is, I think it only serves to divide further, instead of joining forces with considerate understanding, to agree to disagree, and then work toward compromise.

If we forfeit our laws of innocent until proven guilty, due process, all men are created equal, etc....
In dealing with this current threat, then we too, driven by the same fear the Global Warming elites employ, and liberalism in general, and ISIS itself, we lose all the freedoms our founders tried to ensure when drafting how we should govern.

Have faith Web, you saw how the folks voted, it has been a constant shift against the demagoguery of indoctrination of liberalism....
The understanding by many, that the message that is promoted by elitist, is being rejected.....
So much so they elected a much flawed candidate, as opposed to towing the line under the bill of goods that has been pushed by the left.
Don't forfeit our values, to win an argument, battle, or threat, it is not a sustainable path to truth Web......

Lets not become of that what we abhor and find cause to many ills we now experience.

Threats will always be in this world, do not succumb to their ways. Freedom, as truth, can never, ever, be wiped away from man's heart, or soul.....

Even in death, it travels with him, as a seed that will ALWAYS spring forth from the confines of those who try to bury it.....
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Reply #80 - 06/04/17 at 08:42:10
 
The US has been bombing/regime change for the last 50 years in the mideast. Of course they hate us. We hate them too. The way the US military bombs Iraq and Syria- they destroy all infrastructure, the call in the Iraquis ground forces or the rebels and kurds. When the US is done, there is nothing to return to for the local population. They become refugees.
The Syrian army in Syriaand the Iraquis in Mosul try not to destroy infrastructure.  They target Isis positions and fight it out street by street. When they are done, the local residents return and rebuild. No refugees.

I think that the US wants refugees- to overburden Europe's socialist economies and crash them and make them more like our country. And I think they want refugees in the US to keep wages down.

The policy makers, the leaders don't give a darn about working people, they just care about the elite corporate folks. (Outsourcing, NAFTA, TPP showed us that.)
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Reply #81 - 06/04/17 at 09:25:21
 
tcreeley wrote on 06/04/17 at 08:42:10:
The US has been bombing/regime change for the last 50 years in the mideast. Of course they hate us. We hate them too. The way the US military bombs Iraq and Syria- they destroy all infrastructure, the call in the Iraquis ground forces or the rebels and kurds. When the US is done, there is nothing to return to for the local population. They become refugees.
The Syrian army in Syriaand the Iraquis in Mosul try not to destroy infrastructure.  They target Isis positions and fight it out street by street. When they are done, the local residents return and rebuild. No refugees.

I think that the US wants refugees- to overburden Europe's socialist economies and crash them and make them more like our country. And I think they want refugees in the US to keep wages down.

The policy makers, the leaders don't give a darn about working people, they just care about the elite corporate folks. (Outsourcing, NAFTA, TPP showed us that.)


Interesting, but if a King can not leave his castle, hasn't he then chosen a cell, for himself?  
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Reply #82 - 06/04/17 at 14:55:32
 
tcreeley wrote on 06/04/17 at 08:42:10:
The US has been bombing/regime change for the last 50 years in the mideast. Of course they hate us. We hate them too. The way the US military bombs Iraq and Syria- they destroy all infrastructure, the call in the Iraquis ground forces or the rebels and kurds. When the US is done, there is nothing to return to for the local population. They become refugees.
The Syrian army in Syriaand the Iraquis in Mosul try not to destroy infrastructure.  They target Isis positions and fight it out street by street. When they are done, the local residents return and rebuild. No refugees.

I think that the US wants refugees- to overburden Europe's socialist economies and crash them and make them more like our country. And I think they want refugees in the US to keep wages down.

The policy makers, the leaders don't give a darn about working people, they just care about the elite corporate folks. (Outsourcing, NAFTA, TPP showed us that.)


I have no idea what Ray thinks he said, but I can follow this. If not correct, it's not illogical. And, like deciding if Assad did it, following reason, you have a good shot at being right.
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Reply #83 - 06/04/17 at 16:27:45
 
Muslim terrorists ain't so scary...
Irish Catholics are worse...
Thank you, Jesus...Huh

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Terror is killing far fewer people in the UK now than it was in the 1980s

Between 2000 and 2015, 90 people have been killed in the UK in terrorist attacks, according to figures from the Global Terrorism Database. Although not on British soil, a further 30 British people were killed in Tunisia when a gunman attacked a hotel popular among Western tourists.

This compares to 1,094 deaths in the 15-year period before that, between 1985 and 1999, and a further 2,211 between 1970 and 1984.
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Reply #84 - 06/04/17 at 16:33:36
 
Awww, look! It was WORSE once upon a time... Gee, that proves it's not stupid!
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Reply #85 - 06/04/17 at 16:37:25
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/04/17 at 16:27:45:
Muslim terrorists ain't so scary...
Irish Catholics are worse...
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Terror is killing far fewer people in the UK now than it was in the 1980s

Between 2000 and 2015, 90 people have been killed in the UK in terrorist attacks, according to figures from the Global Terrorism Database. Although not on British soil, a further 30 British people were killed in Tunisia when a gunman attacked a hotel popular among Western tourists.

This compares to 1,094 deaths in the 15-year period before that, between 1985 and 1999, and a further 2,211 between 1970 and 1984.


And how many die from smoking, in that same time frame, sport?
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Reply #86 - 06/04/17 at 17:55:17
 
How about the daily jihad report?

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

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Reply #87 - 06/05/17 at 12:32:52
 
False flag? Theresa May afraid that she won't get elected- had to kick one off for her team?
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Reply #88 - 06/05/17 at 13:43:19
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/04/17 at 05:40:55:
Until these mythical moderate Muslims turn on the radical Islamist in their midst, this isn't going away. The Boston bombers were children of refugees who lived most of their lives in US. Thanks to traitorous politicians, mostly liberals but not all, we have millions of potential timebombs in our neighborhoods who will also grow up being poisoned not just by radical Islam but by liberal ideology which has an antiAmerican hatred as its foundation.

The military and law enforcement can't possibly identify them all but other Muslims can. Muslims have to root them out. Muslims have to turn on them. I keep hearing these terrorist do not represent Islam, well then prove it. I want to read about a Muslim mob burning an extremist mosque to the ground and outing the killers in training. If law enforcement doesn't follow up, I want to see them take matters into their own hands.


     That is  EXACTLY   Right.
In Many, large Metro areas, their are,   NUMEROUS,  ‘Gang’, shootings/killings.
And those ’shooting’ only make the Nat. news, when some Innocent is sitting at the table doing their homework, and Killed, by a  stray, “GANG”, bullet.

Of course the Police do their best, and the local  politicians, stand on the street in front of the camera and say: “Anyone who has information on this, please come forward”.    (And no one ever does)

Now, the people that live, in those densely packed, segregated areas,
            KNOW, the abc gang, was shooting at the xyz gang.
They  KNOW, who the, ‘Gang Members’, are.
They KNOW, who fired the shots, that KILLED a Innocent, doing homework at the kitchen table.
     THEY  KNOW !!!!!

But they will Not say a word, Because, they have been TOLD TO, keep their mouth shut.
They will NOT  lift a hand, to help, Rid their community/area/neighborhood, of the, ‘Gangs’.
  NOT Lift ONE FINGER.

Yet, every week, they will stand in front of the cameras, and CRY, and lament, ’something must be done’.  
Yet, They, the ones that live their, the ones that  KNOW,  
     they, the affected ones, are doing,  NOTHING.  

The only way, to fix that, (as I see it), is to start a, ‘campaign’,  of;  
     ‘Don’t Respond’
Now, the start of that, will gather ALL, the self righteous, talking heads, all the areas Politicians, the J. Jacksons, & Sharpton like, and area, ‘leaders’, which will ALL  be on the news, 24/7, saying,  ‘You Don’t Care’.
Then the, (Police/Responders/Etc) will say: “Yes WE do  care, but YOU  Don’t, it is  PROVEN in the last Decade, of NO, Help/Information from YOU, about the identification of the people, that are causing YOU  Harm.  So, YOU, take care of the problem, YOURSELVES”.
Next step, Dead, “Gang Banger”, Bodies on the street. Their, ‘family’ will pick them up.
    Innocent person shot, their family, will rush them to a hospital.
Then,  Finally, the People In That Area, will grow a pair, and take care, of the Problem, THEMSELVES.
THEN, things can go back to normal.

How Long will it take?   Most likely will depend on how many, ‘ Innocents’, are shot/killed.




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Reply #89 - 06/05/17 at 13:48:58
 
Well, if ANYTHING has been proven it's that proving things to lefties won't change the way they operate.
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