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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #60 - 03/04/17 at 10:51:50 Here is a VOA from Bob is the Oil Guy for the "New Bottle" T6. Still haven't seen one for the T4. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4238740/New_bottle_shell _rotella_t6_5w#Post4238740
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Reply #61 - 03/04/17 at 11:00:23

Buster wrote on 03/04/17 at 08:19:28:

Just a reminder: Motul 3000 4T 10w40 - Jaso MA2 Mineral oil that promises a "superior everything" additive package. Only thing that worries me on the label is the statement about it being recommended as an excellent "break-in" oil.

Break-in oil is high in ZDDP. Not to worry. Do you know how much in the Motul?

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #62 - 03/04/17 at 12:59:27 I believe they have to call it a break in oil in order to get keep the ZDDP levels high. So I don't think there is any issues running break in oil all the time. The one oil I had interest in was from Joe Gibbs Racing , Driven MX wet clutch racing oil ! Until I saw the price 20 USD a Qt + shipping !!!!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #63 - 03/04/17 at 13:04:13 Who shall cast the first stone ?
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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #64 - 03/04/17 at 13:16:59

Ruttly wrote on 03/04/17 at 12:59:27:

I believe they have to call it a break in oil in order to get keep the ZDDP levels high. So I don't think there is any issues running break in oil all the time.
The one oil I had interest in was from Joe Gibbs Racing , Driven MX wet clutch racing oil !
Until I saw the price 20 USD a Qt + shipping !!!!

I'd have to see the ZDDP levels in break in oil, but I suspect they are super high in ZDDP to facilitate the rapid wear/breaking in of parts. Maybe dilute it a little with normal oil? Roll Eyes

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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #65 - 03/04/17 at 13:18:26

Kris01 wrote on 03/04/17 at 11:00:23:

Buster wrote on 03/04/17 at 08:19:28:
Just a reminder: Motul 3000 4T 10w40 - Jaso MA2 Mineral oil that promises a "superior everything" additive package. Only thing that worries me on the label is the statement about it being recommended as an excellent "break-in" oil.

Break-in oil is high in ZDDP. Not to worry. Do you know how much in the Motul?

Okay, but I've seen some "boutique" break-in oils with ZDDP in the 2,500-3,000ppm range - Hopefully the Motul will be closer to 1,200-1,300ppm. Don't Have a clue of what the analysis will look like, but hope it will be worthy of the $7.95/Qt price tag. If not, I'll probably just use Rotella later on. Especially if the used oil analysis isn't impressive enough.

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hotrod Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 326 NC Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #66 - 03/04/17 at 13:26:54 My oil is better than your oil.
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hotrod Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 326 NC Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #67 - 03/04/17 at 13:39:13 Who called me a molybdenum ?
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #68 - 03/04/17 at 14:14:53 hotrod wrote on 03/04/17 at 13:39:13: Who called me a molybdenum ? You, sir, are a cad-mium!!!!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #69 - 03/04/17 at 14:18:14 In Bob the oil guys report. It shows zinc and phosphorus. What determines ZDDP ppm rating ?
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Buster Full Member Offline Motul 3000 10w40 Zinc 1407ppm Posts: 128 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #70 - 03/04/17 at 14:59:46 Ruttly wrote on 03/04/17 at 14:18:14: In Bob the oil guys report. It shows zinc and phosphorus. What determines ZDDP ppm rating ? Zinc dialkyldithiophosphates (often referred to as ZDDP) Not on-topic, but just in case someone needed to know... Dichlorodifluoromethane (R-12)
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28786 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #71 - 03/04/17 at 15:20:14 Dichlorodifluoromethane? Slowly I turn... step by step...
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piedmontbuckeye Senior Member Offline Go Bucks! Posts: 496 Easley, SC Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #72 - 03/04/17 at 15:28:24 Ruttly wrote on 03/04/17 at 08:31:47: What is "up to snuff" ? What is the ZDDP ppm in T4 & T6 ? To be honest, I don't remember her exact wording. I think she said the ZDDP was the same as the previous Rotella, but not sure. Try giving them a call. She was very pleasant to talk to.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5008 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #73 - 03/04/17 at 16:15:04 Yes but on Bobs report it doesn't show ZDDP it only shows zinc & phosphorus in seperate columns.
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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #74 - 03/04/17 at 16:19:01

Ruttly wrote on 03/04/17 at 16:15:04:

Yes but on Bobs report it doesn't show ZDDP it only shows zinc & phosphorus in seperate columns.

When they test it.....I believe the test results can't leave the Zinc and Phosphorus combined as ZDDP......the testing process separates it into the 2 separate ingredients (Zinc and Phosphorus).

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