Here is the update in full text -- once again it is tempting to mock the triple split forked tongue with which MS speaks, but it is also clear MS really really WANTS you to upgrade to Win 10 as they are already downsizing the people who take care of the old stuff, and MS will lay off their sea of contract workers when Win 10 is finally finished.    Eventually, the deal will jell but right now folks who want to REGISTER as testers and install a prelim Win 10 are the only ones who stand an outside chance of a free Win 10 ride.

Thoughts on getting the license code off the Authentic MS sticker on the box of an installed Win 7 or better machine --- yeah, well, folks can read now can't they?

"Update: Note that you’ll need to associate your Windows 10 Insider Preview build with Microsoft Account to get the upgrade or any future Insider updates. While you won’t need a Microsoft Account to perform a normal upgrade from Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 or to use Windows 10 generally, you will need one to upgrade from Windows 10 Insider Preview to Windows 10 final.

It’s also worth noting that when Aul’s blog post was first published on Friday, it said users that had performed a clean install of the Windows 10 Insider Preview would be able to upgrade to Windows 10 final and their version of Windows would remain activated. Now it doesn’t say that anymore.

The post has been changed to say that only users with “Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1″ can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. In other words if you haven’t already paid for Windows in one way or another (by buying a boxed or downloaded copy, or by purchasing a PC with the OS pre-loaded), then there’s officially no free upgrade to Windows 10 for you. Whether you’ll be able to do it unofficially remains to be seen… but you may need to buy a valid Windows license key if you don’t already have one associated with your computer.

It’s hard to parse Microsoft semantics though. Gabe Aul has responded to several questions on Twitter in a way that suggests you can essentially get a licensed and activated Windows 10 for free by signing up for the Windows Insider Program, installing a Windows 10 Preview before July 29th, and linking it to your Microsoft Account. But as mentioned above, the amended blog post  specifically says users only get to upgrade for free from licensed, activated Windows 7 or 8.1 systems.

So the company seems to be sending mixed messages: while it’s clear that anyone who is running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 for free… and that anyone running a Windows 10 Preview build will also be able to upgrade, it’s not entirely clear if you’ll have a genuine, activated windows license after the upgrade if you performed a clean install on a system that had never been running Windows 7 or 8.1 to begin with. It’s possible that you will be able to, but Microsoft is discouraging it (which would explain the change in language). It’s also possible you won’t be able to unless you can enter a valid Windows license key (there’s a good chance that one was affixed to the side of your computer when you bought it)."

And that will be easier by then as all new printers now support it out of the box now.

Jumped back to start again with my refurb disc's.
Two drives with 100+ gigs ea., could have swore this old laptop had 500gig, but guess it only had 250gig.
It made 3 partitions, one for 116gig(87gig left, so new win 10 is 29gig?) another "data" drive with 105gig, and then the recovery one...
So I guess I got my space back, now if I want I suppose I could load mint16 or 17 and let it create a boot sector and I could use the 105gig "data" partition for that.
There is also a new Internet Explorer called Microsoft Edge (project Spartan), it keeps telling me to load it with my "aps" LOL but its not listed. I guess I will wait for the updates that are more than likely going to happen at the most inopportune time

HEY Old Feller, did you download the X32 version of Win 10? for that XP machine?
I have an old PC in the garage I was playing with for my camera system, maybe i'll go attempt to put the X32 bit version on it.

 
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windo...

Read it,  the boy explains what he was trying to say when he cranked up all this controversy --- he's telling the straight party line now and apologizing profusely but there ain't no free Windows 10 unless you already have a current real Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 license to upgrade to Win 10.

The fact you were a trial group Prelim type person is MEANINGLESS ......   as in counts for absolutely NOTHING.

In short, MS lied to you (again).   You spent months letting them view your keystrokes and putting up with all the version after version after version BS for nothing.

You are just being handed the blame for all the things still wrong with Win 10 as "we just did what the preliminary users told us they wanted" --- which is complete BS as MS just did exactly what they wanted to go do and then used the Prelim people as their built in whipping boys.

And then MS didn't even give them their free copy of Win 10 at the end.

"Screwgled" doesn't come from Google --- in both cases it was invented by MS and applied by them in liberal coatings to innocent people.

Well here is a little better clarity on the "free" part

"If you clean install the Windows 10 preview now and continue to opt-in to future updates then you’ll get your free copy of Windows 10, but you’ll have to put up with potential pre-release software bugs and continued updates in the future. Microsoft says Windows 10 is "intended to be installed on Genuine Windows devices," but the Windows Insider program is a clear, if complicated, loop hole if you don’t have a Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license."

The nuance here is that Microsoft will keep fresh copies of Windows 10 activated for testers only if they keep opting-in to future preview updates. So if you’ve clean installed a Windows 10 preview build and upgrade to the final on July the 29th, then you don’t have to worry about activation as long as you keep receiving pre-release updates. "Since we’re continuing the Windows Insider Program you’ll be able to continue receiving builds and those builds will continue to be activated under the terms of the Windows Insider Program," explains Microsoft’s Gabe Aul.

So I guess my little 15" laptop will forever and always be a "test model"

After 3 days of Windows, coming back to Linux is like this ........

I suspect Apple people feel something similar.    

Microsoft and their ugly baby puts my nerves on edge.

I'm up to build 10182 of Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview and man is there a difference!

Well for now the Explorer now called "Edge" is screamin' fast (probably until the cache starts to build up)
So I guess i'll keep ya'll up to date on my "opinion" of Windows 10. Not that I am a "fan boy" or anything, I like to think I am not bias against anything until it proves it sux.

http://innov8tiv.com/microsoft-edge-browser-vs-google-chrome-edge-will-replac...

Microsoft Edge Browser VS Google Chrome: Edge Will Replace Google Chrome as The Best Browser for Mobile and PC

First, this is a brand new mobile browser, not the Spartan browser that was originally planned for Win 10.    The Windows team is claiming they "converted" Spartan to this and Spartan was just a code name, but the original Spartan was a cleaned up IE and this is ..... not.   People are asking where MS bought it from, but right now I agree with the reviewers ....

.... who cares?   It is fast and light and it does not slow down and choke over memory usage (it turns the memory back loose very quickly).

It is good stuff and it will make Google get better real fast (or get replaced real fast).

If they can blend it in with Cortana seamlessly and make the pair of them work better than "OK GOOGLE", then they will have a winner on their hands.

Why is Edge so fast?  

http://siliconangle.com/blog/2015/05/25/3-reasons-why-microsofts-edge-browser...

Reading this says that EDGE hauls ass on those items that do not contain ANY legacy calls to old poky softwares (like flash and java).    EDGE simply doesn't work with old stuff -- it ignores all those calls and either doesn't show it or stops cold and tells you all about your moldy web sites.

This new EDGE browser signals a need for all web sites to be updated to HTML2 standards, and to drop all the old moldy IE specific stuff contained in most old sites.    Edge spells end of use for Flash and Java ....  bye boys.

Google Chrome has some memory and speed hang ups that are based on their own older AI based search functions -- this time around Google will be the respondent to a real MS challenge.  

Both Google Chrome and Firefox are currently burdened with old IE compatibility fixes that MS itself has flat-arsed dropped off now,  smoking and steaming copious brown vapors right on down onto the cold cold concrete -- plop !!!

And we love it !!!!

We all know Google does their very best work (quickest work too) once somebody really pisses them off good with a real hard hitting challenge.    And EDGE is a strong challenge aimed right at Google's jugular vein.

Go MS Go !!!!   Go piss off 'ol SwitzerGoogle some and let's see this bulky green dude come back out again !!!!



Watch out there, Bruce Google Banner --- that snicky quick MS EDGE stuff could indeed be the basis of a REAL MICROSOFT CHROMEKILLER using the not yet released Win 10 Mobile for the lighter faster OS handle portion and EDGE as the knife portion of the spear.

Go get your green on, Bruce --- Hulk Go Smash Stupid MS Browser --- go get 'em Hulk boy