Dave, where did you find these reviews? I'm dealing with e3's warranty people right now and he saying he never heard of this happening to which I replied someone in my forum posted a bunch of comments about this happening and then he started saying how well yeah that was like ten years ago but we've fixed the problem since then....
Anyways was just wondering in case it comes up again.
Dave wrote on 06/01/14 at 08:19:02:I am with Raydawg on the vacuum trial first. The problem with using grease is that you may actually make the cylinder sticky and parts may stick to it as well as the grease coated swab.
I use my shop vac and the plastic top from a paint spray can. Find a spray can top, or peanut butter jar, or anything that fits over the shop vac hose. Then cut/drill a small hole in the plastic and insert a piece of rubber hose that will fit in the spark plug hole. Having the piston at the bottom of the stroke will give you the most room to move the hose around. A really small tube is the most maneuverable - but may not be able to big up big pieces.....bigger tubes are less flexible but can pick up bigger pieces. You might try a few different sized to see what you can use best. The angle of the spark plug may require that you lean the bike over toward the clutch side and vacuum up the pieces from the low spot on that side....you may not be able to reach over to the shifter side very well.
OK....explain to me what you hoped to accomplish by indexing an E3 spark plug? Indexing on a high performance 8,000 rpm engine with a single electrode might get you a ).0001 second advantage on the drag strip......but on a spark plug with 3 electrodes....what is there to index?
If a 3 electrode spark plug was of any real benefit - they would have been installed in most production cars and bikes. The factories are spending millions of dollars trying to make engine more efficient....they would have used E3 plugs if they made any real gains. Customer reviews like these would have stopped me from putting them in my engine.
Hi if you are consindering changing to this plug please dont they are junk, they caused missfire,blew out a plug boot and cost me $179.00 to find this problem. I contacted E3 they said it was not caused by their plug. I had AC delco plugs installed and have no problems. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY THEY STINK. The warrenty just covered the cost of the plugs I am out almost $200.00.
CHECK WITH YOUR DEALER TO SEE IF PLUGS ARE RECOMMENDED FOR YOUR VEHICLE...I put a set in my 09 wrangler, drove from Kentucky to Florida. At approximately 600 miles the jeep started missing, at 700 it was missing and back firing, we stopped for the night. We took it to a jeep dealer the next morning, they put it on the computer and told me one plug was dead and three were breaking down. Also the plugs were not recommended by Dodge and should not have been installed, as a result the warranty did not cover repairs.
I had to pay $197.00 for diagnostics and new plugs, then on the way back to Kentucky the check engine light came on, back to Dodge dealer, because of the back firing, I had to replace EGR valve and PCV valve also not covered by wrranty, $572.00. both dealers said the E-3 plugs because of the firing/spark design the computer sent the wrong firing command and the plugs did not work right, the back firing killed the EGR and PCV. In my opinion if you have a late model Jeep you should not use this plug under any circumstances.
I bought these from my local autozone to replace my old Denzo plugs in my 08 Saturn Outlook. The autozone guy said they were better than the denzos and would produce varied gas mileage over new Denzo plugs. Being a car guy, I usually go with what I know and buy brands that are reputable; in this case I said what the heck I'll give them a try, big mistake!
After replacing the plugs and setting them to the proper manufacture torque, I start the vehicle, runs fine purs like a kitten, ildles high as all outlooks do. Then, once the idle settles at 750-800, I kept getting stutter and hesitation. No check engine light, so I scan it with my Craftsman OBD2 scanner...code P0301 misfire cylinder 1!
To make this short; I removed these plugs one by one only to find all but one cracked. Yes the porcelain was cracked around the top and in some cases the entire diode was bent. I thought I just over tightened then till I googled the situation. There are many reports of these plugs either being defective out the box or crapping out under 30k miles. I just wish I had done my homework first, these plugs have a quality control issue, you are playing roulette buying them and I'd steer clear of them! The company along with some random others promote these plugs as having produced HP gains of 8hp, and 5lbs torque, and distances of 100k miles or more, however they lasted all of 10 minutes in my truck.
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