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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #60 - 06/27/13 at 14:24:03
 
And from Foxnews:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/watchdog-knocks-down-dem-claim-tha...

I can present the true facts all day, how much longer can you dodge, deflect and evade?

Conservatives were targeted ahead of the election and liberals weren't, it is a fact. The IRS admitted to it, they appologized for it and they are being sued for it. Maybe it isn't the people here you need to convince but those who confessed and appologized for it and convince THEM to recant and take back the appology.
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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #61 - 06/27/13 at 14:40:32
 
And here is the Inspector General's letter stating all these facts, if you need more proof then I don't think anything will sway your beliefs.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/TIGTA-Final-Response-to...

Being a PDF I don't know how the cut and paste will work for the link-follow-challenged but here goes.

From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you
identified, labeled "Progressives," were used by the IRS to select potential political
cases during the 2010 to 2012 timeframe we audited. The "Progressives" criteria
appeared on a section of the "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) spreadsheet labeled
"Historical," and, unlike other BOLO entries, did not include instructions on how to refer
cases that met the criteria. While we have multiple sources of information corroborating
the use of Tea Party and other related criteria we described in our report, including
employee interviews, e-mails, and other documents, we found no indication in any of
these other materials that "Progressives" was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for
political campaign intervention.


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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #62 - 06/27/13 at 14:44:21
 
At this point, if anyone still thinks liberal and progressive groups were targeted just like the conservative groups then this has gone into the realm of religious belief and displaying real world facts that destroy your religion is not the best use of my time.
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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #63 - 06/27/13 at 15:03:00
 
srinath wrote on 06/26/13 at 11:18:53:
There is more, and from every reputable news service in the world.

Sorry Dane, someone's blog - well anyone can have a blog.

Cool.
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Interesting how every reputable news servicve in the world missed the IG's response letter, in his own words, debunk the "liberals were targeted too" scam that has been circulating around. Makes one think that maybe Foxnews and "someone's blog" are more reputable than the liberal media... Grin Grin Grin

Soooo....are we done here?  Wink
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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #64 - 06/27/13 at 19:40:33
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 14:06:23:
You won't even accept Associated Press now  Shocked



Ha ha ha ... "your" Associated press is a fake.

This is the real one -
http://www.ap.org/

Their logo appears on all their reports, and when you click it, it goes to their site.

If it has a proper AP logo and a link that is real. You're passing off some fool with a notepad who is only reported on GOP USA .com as associated press.

Really ... you cant do any better than GOPUSA ?

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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #65 - 06/27/13 at 19:42:16
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 15:03:00:
srinath wrote on 06/26/13 at 11:18:53:
There is more, and from every reputable news service in the world.

Sorry Dane, someone's blog - well anyone can have a blog.

Cool.
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Interesting how every reputable news servicve in the world missed the IG's response letter, in his own words, debunk the "liberals were targeted too" scam that has been circulating around. Makes one think that maybe Foxnews and "someone's blog" are more reputable than the liberal media... Grin Grin Grin

Soooo....are we done here?  Wink



Wow ... you know when Faux news doesn't report it, you know what it means ...

It means its such a big lie even faux news wont go near it.

Blame the press all you want ... it may be that you get your truth from the national enquirer ... sadly, the rest of the world does not.

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Reply #66 - 06/27/13 at 20:05:14
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 14:24:03:
And from Foxnews:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/watchdog-knocks-down-dem-claim-tha...

I can present the true facts all day, how much longer can you dodge, deflect and evade?

Conservatives were targeted ahead of the election and liberals weren't, it is a fact. The IRS admitted to it, they appologized for it and they are being sued for it. Maybe it isn't the people here you need to convince but those who confessed and appologized for it and convince THEM to recant and take back the appology.


Ooooo Thank You, you brought up Russell George - for the life of me I was trying to remember the dude's name -

Once again ... a Republican nominee promptly turns around and buries the organisation he is a "Watchdog" for to blame for the loss in the election -

J. Russell George
Treasury Inspector General for Tax
Administration
Following his nomination by President George W. Bush, the
United States Senate confirmed J. Russell George in November 2004, as the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. Prior to assuming this role, Mr. George served as the Inspector General of the Corporation for National and Community Service, having been nominated to that position by
President Bush and confirmed by the Senate in 2002.

And you still need to read the actual testimony of Russell George in its entireity, and not what Faux news has exerpted ... because the entire report - well it says something else. Not what Faux news has decided it says.

That testimony is here -
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/george_testimony.pdf

That says in one of its conclusions -

In early Calendar Year 2010, according to an IRS Determinations Unit specialist, the IRS began searching for applications with “Tea Party,” “Patriots,” or “9/12” in the organization’s name as well as other “political-sounding” names (hereinafter referred to as potential political cases).

Gee political sounding names ... huh ... in a non political 501c application ... imagine that.

You cant take bits and pieces of that and parrot what Faux news says and say "Debunked" over and over again.

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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #67 - 06/27/13 at 20:14:02
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 14:40:32:
And here is the Inspector General's letter stating all these facts, if you need more proof then I don't think anything will sway your beliefs.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/TIGTA-Final-Response-to...

Being a PDF I don't know how the cut and paste will work for the link-follow-challenged but here goes.

From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you
identified, labeled "Progressives," were used by the IRS to select potential political
cases during the 2010 to 2012 timeframe we audited. The "Progressives" criteria
appeared on a section of the "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) spreadsheet labeled
"Historical," and, unlike other BOLO entries, did not include instructions on how to refer
cases that met the criteria. While we have multiple sources of information corroborating
the use of Tea Party and other related criteria we described in our report, including
employee interviews, e-mails, and other documents, we found no indication in any of
these other materials that "Progressives" was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for
political campaign intervention.


(Note the words "Finale Response")  DEBUNKED!!! Grin Grin Grin



Imagine that ... a republican blames the IRS for targeting republican groups there by causing election laws ... you could have knocked me over with a feather ... you know what else ... Donald Rumsfeld has blamed Obama for the war against Iraq. Such an awful president, he's waging war against Iraq.

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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #68 - 06/28/13 at 12:53:13
 
srinath wrote on 06/27/13 at 20:14:02:
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 14:40:32:
And here is the Inspector General's letter stating all these facts, if you need more proof then I don't think anything will sway your beliefs.

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/TIGTA-Final-Response-to...

Being a PDF I don't know how the cut and paste will work for the link-follow-challenged but here goes.

From our audit work, we did not find evidence that the criteria you
identified, labeled "Progressives," were used by the IRS to select potential political
cases during the 2010 to 2012 timeframe we audited. The "Progressives" criteria
appeared on a section of the "Be On the Look Out" (BOLO) spreadsheet labeled
"Historical," and, unlike other BOLO entries, did not include instructions on how to refer
cases that met the criteria. While we have multiple sources of information corroborating
the use of Tea Party and other related criteria we described in our report, including
employee interviews, e-mails, and other documents, we found no indication in any of
these other materials that "Progressives" was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for
political campaign intervention.


(Note the words "Finale Response")  DEBUNKED!!! Grin Grin Grin



Imagine that ... a republican blames the IRS for targeting republican groups there by causing election laws ... you could have knocked me over with a feather ... you know what else ... Donald Rumsfeld has blamed Obama for the war against Iraq. Such an awful president, he's waging war against Iraq.

Cool.
Srinath.


Such a sad, telling response  Sad
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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #69 - 06/28/13 at 13:24:31
 
srinath wrote on 06/27/13 at 20:05:14:
Dane Allen wrote on 06/27/13 at 14:24:03:
And from Foxnews:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/watchdog-knocks-down-dem-claim-tha...

I can present the true facts all day, how much longer can you dodge, deflect and evade?

Conservatives were targeted ahead of the election and liberals weren't, it is a fact. The IRS admitted to it, they appologized for it and they are being sued for it. Maybe it isn't the people here you need to convince but those who confessed and appologized for it and convince THEM to recant and take back the appology.


Ooooo Thank You, you brought up Russell George - for the life of me I was trying to remember the dude's name -


His name is all over the news, well, the news the rest of us reads and not in the liberal's echo chamber media.

Quote:
Once again ... a Republican nominee promptly turns around and buries the organisation he is a "Watchdog" for to blame for the loss in the election -.......


Wow, I couldn't tell which of the dodge, deflect or evade tactics that you consistantly use applied to the above and then I realized that you may have gotten all three into one response. AND I think you have added desperate to the mix. Bravo, my good man!!! That is some serious squirming under the onslaught of truth.

I especially love how you imply that the IG somehow backstabbed the organization he is a "watchdog" for, as if he is some sort of traitor or snitch. Like the Inspector General should turn a blind eye to corruption in a government organization.

What do you think he is, a liberal?? Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #70 - 06/28/13 at 13:39:10
 
No A republican nominated IG should find a reason why the republicans lost ... and bingo ... IRS targetting political groups in a non political application process ... bingo, there that is it.

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Reply #71 - 06/28/13 at 13:54:48
 
srinath wrote on 06/28/13 at 13:39:10:
No A republican nominated IG should find a reason why the republicans lost ... and bingo ... IRS targetting political groups in a non political application process ... bingo, there that is it.

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Not normally being one to go deeper into the nut forest I am throwing caution to the wind and asking what an Obama appointed IG should have said in his/her response to Democrats.
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Reply #72 - 06/28/13 at 13:59:07
 
Not often I get to debunk the same wacky story in three different threads but here I am.  Grin
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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #73 - 06/28/13 at 14:28:52
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/28/13 at 13:54:48:
srinath wrote on 06/28/13 at 13:39:10:
No A republican nominated IG should find a reason why the republicans lost ... and bingo ... IRS targetting political groups in a non political application process ... bingo, there that is it.

Cool.
Srinath.


Not normally being one to go deeper into the nut forest I am throwing caution to the wind and asking what an Obama appointed IG should have said in his/her response to Democrats.



Oh that's easy -
IG says - we will review all the evidence for the entire period following the citizens united ruling and the 501c applications and we will show you everything tha twas done or not done on all of them. You will see what the task we were given was and you can decide for yourself how the agency did as well as how each specific office vs another etc etc ...
All the data will be collected and put on this website/database.

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Re: Liberal and progressive groups targeted by the
Reply #74 - 06/28/13 at 14:29:59
 
Dane Allen wrote on 06/28/13 at 13:59:07:
Not often I get to debunk the same wacky story in three different threads but here I am.  Grin



You actually are that delusional that you're debunking it 3 ways from tuesday ? ...
You're debunking it 3 different ways ... cos you're not even debunking it 1 way.
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