justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/29/13 at 07:29:54:


I stand corrected. I shouldn't put words in other peoples mouths I guess. And I think you are correct. I'ts true that in places with easy to obtain concealed carry permits for the law abiding, gun crime goes down.

Keeping guns out of the hands of people who should not have them is the real problem. Laws that infringe the rights of folks who actually obey the law don't help much. The criminal types just ignore them.

While I think there are proponents of gun control that are sincerely looking for a solution, I think they are in the minority. I fear that the most vocal advocates of gun control schemes are motivated by their own fear and diskike of guns and gun owners. They don't like guns,don't want guns themselves, therefore they think nobody should have them.

And it doesn't stop with guns. It's part of the whole nanny-state attitude that is so prevelant today. Don't like this or that. No problem.
Just pass a law so nobody can have, or do, whatever that thing happens to be. The mayor of NYC is a good example. He's a rabid anti-gun rights guy, but he also thinks he should be able to tell people what kind of food they can eat and how big a cup of soda pop they can have. And he has ordered his police force to stop and search anyone they darn well please anywhere in NYC with no probable cause. I know it's kind of a tired old cliche, but gun control is not really about guns at all. It's about CONTROL.

Dane Allen wrote on 03/28/13 at 15:54:26:

Yes I have seen the gun and ammo prices,Fads come and go A year from now they will be dirt cheap.Over the next year killings with get worse and more worse as the guns are cheap the teen age kids with all have them.

bill67 wrote on 03/29/13 at 09:06:06:


I would be a lot less, just like what happens everywhere else. Interesting how places with the most restrictions have the most violence. Take England, 35 or so shootings a year but the rape and robbery rates are sky high, dwarfing those same stats here is the states. I will look for those studies I read and try to post them for all to see.

Yeah, England has developed a really weird concept of lawful behavior in the past 20 years or so. Catch a burglar in your home. Bop him upside the head with a cricket bat to keep him from stealing your stuff and YOU go to jail for assault. No right of self defense - thats the police's job - you just cower in the corner till they get there, and hope that the guy just wants your TV, not your wife, or your life.

Lot of folks in the USA think we should be riding down that same road.

Well I guess all kids in school should have semi automatic weapons and we will live happily ever after.

Gun control imposed at the city level is almost worthless.
Nearly all the gun crime committed in NYC is with guns purchased legally in SC or GA. In effect they call I 95 the "iron pipe" ...
These are the points I'd make in the gun control.
1. There is no gun control that shouldn't be imposed national level. City and state level wont work.
2. If we have some serious legislation we may have to get canada and Mexico to go along (but since mexico is busy pumping drugs into the US as fast as they can we may have to settle for an even swap guns for drugs)
3. Getting guns out of criminal and would be criminal hands as well as out of the hands of nut cases would be the worlds largest government program.

These may be the realities of having the right to own firearms.

Cool.
Srinath.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/29/13 at 15:31:29:



Not everyone treats you like an idiot Bill67. Just those without any real points to stand on except "we dont wanna do it" ...
Cool.
Srinath.