justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/22/13 at 19:23:51:



Who ? Bush ?

Well he has kept his mouth shut and stayed out of sight. I have to count that in. In fact since Cheney has not, I'd gladly blame Cheney for all the mistakes.

Cool.
Srinath.

Here is the chronology of the Iraq nuclear situation directly from the IAEA:

http://www.iaea.org/OurWork/SV/Invo/chronology.html

Here is a document briefly discussing the removal of nuclear materials 2003-2004. Haven't had a chance to really go through all of this but will get to it soon:

http://www.iaea.org/OurWork/SV/Invo/reports/s_2004_538.pdf

Bush was pretty bad but Obama dwarfs Bush in every regard.

Dane Allen wrote on 03/22/13 at 23:26:56:



Aaaaah more opinion here I see ... and how many wars based on lies has Obama entered us into ? I see him not entering us into 2 where we should have, cos he doesn't want to over stretch the already over stretched military.

Cool.
Srinath.

srinath wrote on 03/23/13 at 07:53:55:


Yes, that is an opinion, very true.
Why are we still in Afganistan?
Why is Guantanamo still open?
Why are we spending almost 4 trillion a year with nothing to show for it?
What happened in Benghazi?

If you want to measure lies then I think Obamacare is the biggest of them all.

Why did so many the Obamacare supporters request exemptions?
What happened to 'if you like your insurance/doctor then you can keep your insurance/doctor?"
What happened to Obamacare not adding to the deficit?
What happened to Obamacare will lower premiums?
What happened to protecting Medicare?
What happened to adding 30 million new people wihout ading a dime of cost?

Bonus questions:

Were you aware that it would take Bush almost 32 years to spend the equivalent of what Obama has spent in his first four years?
Are you surprised that most of the corporate bailouts went to those who supported Obama financially or had ties? (i.e. Paulson)
Are you aware that White House tours have been cancelled but for $500,000 you can meet with Obama?
Were you aware the sequester was Obama's idea, Obama refused all attempts to reduce the impact and that is only reduces the INCREASE in spending from prior year?

Just some questions to ponder as you please.

Why are we still in Afganistan?

Cos its a lot easier to start a war than to stop one.

Why is Guantanamo still open?

Cos its easier to indiscriminately toss people in jail and leave it for the next guy to sort out

Why are we spending almost 4 trillion a year with nothing to show for it?

Cos Bush sent us into the slide and Obama is just doing his best to keep the situation form getitng worse.

What happened in Benghazi?

Easy, republicons cut funding to many aspects of the foreign services and are trying to blame it on Obama.

If you want to measure lies then I think Obamacare is the biggest of them all.

Really ? ... I have a refund of 334 due to the 80-20 rule that says other wise.

Why did so many the Obamacare supporters request exemptions?

Obama care isn't ideal or perfect. But this BS I have not heard anything about. I heard that the insurance lobby had a huge say in it. That was bad, but I'd have liked to see single payer, which the republicons would have had a heart attack over.

What happened to 'if you like your insurance/doctor then you can keep your insurance/doctor?"

OK I am still seeing the same doctor I have since 2003. Your point ?

What happened to Obamacare not adding to the deficit?

Your'e following some funky math I guess. I got $334 that says you are.

What happened to Obamacare will lower premiums?

As above. That's the 80-20 rule for you.

What happened to protecting Medicare?

What about it ?

What happened to adding 30 million new people wihout ading a dime of cost?

Are these the people under 26 ? yea OK so what about it. I dont know what it did personally, cos I am not under 26 nor do I have child near 26.

Bonus questions:

Were you aware that it would take Bush almost 32 years to spend the equivalent of what Obama has spent in his first four years?

War is cheaper to start. Responsibilities are expensive. Bush did a great job of shovelling responsibility onto the next guy.

Are you surprised that most of the corporate bailouts went to those who supported Obama financially or had ties? (i.e. Paulson)

Paulson was a bush appointee.

Are you aware that White House tours have been cancelled but for $500,000 you can meet with Obama?

Is that the Sequster side effects ? and you wanna pay 1/2 mill to talk to Obama, maybe your should pay that and talk about Obama care.

Were you aware the sequester was Obama's idea, Obama refused all attempts to reduce the impact and that is only reduces the INCREASE in spending from prior year?

That's only cos the republicons wont negotiate ...

Look wars are cheaper to start. The reason Obama is spending more is cos those wars are creating injured vets and there is baby boomers retiring and all of those are obligations we have to pay out for.

Obama is not expected IMHO to give in to Bullying by the GOP. I voted for him to tax the rich, tax the dodgers stop giving away $$ to the GE's, the haliburtons and to build my roads, repair bridges and maintain the infrastructure. As long as he's fighting with the Republicons to do that, its acceptable.

Cool.
Srinath.

srinath wrote on 03/23/13 at 17:04:54:


Ok, if you are not going to take this seriously then I am going to move on to something else. I've loaded this thread with facts and a few well thought out opinions and it doesn't appear I am getting the same in return. This is Obamas 2nd term and he owns everything that is happening now. Those flimsy 'inherited' arguments are exponentially less valid now than they were last year.

For the only Superpower in the world with moral standing, ending a war with anything less than victory followed by the establishment of a peaceful government and society; is a failure.

We are diminished. We strike no fear in our enemies. They kill our ambassador and celebrate long into the night. Our ‘friends’ would be fools to trust us. Ask Israel.

The power-vacuum will be filled; it won’t remain empty for long.