Paraquat wrote on 03/04/13 at 09:21:11:


This is america - If you work hard you'd be taxed stiffly ... unless you're uber rich in which case you'd be taxed say 13% but you can buy yourself a few politicians and get them to sign a pledge and then hold it over them a few decades ...

You drop a baby over the line, you're set for life, further both the political parties will be tripping over themselves to kow tow to you ... you're now a "demographic"

Cool.
Srinath.

Na... doesn't suck. It's kinda fun.... it a perverse sort of way. Sort of like looking  at a trainwreck..... the horror is captivating. You can't believe it's right in front of you.... you only hear about such things, but you don't always see it in person...

Krowl wrote on 03/14/13 at 08:41:40:


You said what I was thinking!!
Isn't the allure of a motorcycle the freedom one experiences when riding out on the open road?
It does seem ironic that those who embrace the shackles of socialism would also gravitate towards motorcycle riding.
On the plus side, most of the riders I have interacted with either are openly conservative or don't talk about their liberal religion.  
So, I wouldn't worry too much.

Dane Allen wrote on 03/20/13 at 17:12:48:


It does seen very very Ironic that the republicons who want the freedom to die when they get into a crash seem to embrace the riskiest way to travel ...
Cool.
Srinath.

Midnightrider wrote on 03/20/13 at 17:17:21:


Very sad story, I have a Brother and Cousin who were in the military in Iraq and have relatives in Afganistan right now as contractors. This is a perfect example of the disconnect between what is real and what is believed and the reason I refer to socialism/liberalism and environmentalism as a religion.

A common factor in Religion and BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) is that facts aren't necessary becaust the tenets of liberalism/Religion/BDS etc. are all about belief. Global warming rallys cancelled due to snow won't deter the faithful. All the Kurds who died from chemical weapons won't deter the faithful from believing Saddam had no .

Some exerpts:
"I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power."
-He has a right to be very bitter but he is directing it at the wrong target.

" I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go to Iraq, a country that had no part in the September 2001 attacks and did not pose a threat to its neighbors, much less to the United States."

-The facts are Al Qaeda has training camps in Iraq. Iraq invaded Kuwait. Again beliefs override facts.

There is a lot more but I just don't have the time. The link was dropped without any explanation, possibly for dramatic effect, so I felt compelled to add some context. Again, a very sad story made even more so by Mr. Youngs belief structure overriding the facts. Another example of how brutal and unfair life can be.

Serowbot wrote on 03/21/13 at 11:03:04:


Recall the the quote attributed to Mark Twain "There are lies, there at darn lies and then there are statistics."

While it was reported that 97% of scientists believe in global warming, for example, what they didn't tell you was that was out of only 79 responses. When you take a real, scientific poll you get something closer to the following:

"That is totally misleading: the 97 percent figure is based on 79 people’s responses! It is instructive to investigate other, larger surveys. For instance, only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. Nearly two-thirds of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem."

http://www.rgj.com/article/20130320/OPED02/303200032/Farley-wrong-about-scien...

So, was your "99%" claim based on your faith and belief system or do you have a factual basis for this claim?

With regard to Iraq, there is much that we already know and much more that we do not. If you have seen the movie Argo you might be aware that the story behind the movie was classified until recently and the world was allowed to believe the Canadians got our people out.

We know Al Qaeda had camps in Iraq and we know that Saddam had WMDs because we witnessed him use them on his own people. It will be very interesting to see what comes out of Freedom of Information in the next 10-20 years.

I totally agree with you that agreeing with the concensus of the world's scientific community is not a religious belief. But, believing that there is a concensus of the scientific community is a religious belief because it has no basis in fact.

srinath wrote on 03/21/13 at 15:24:53:


That is a pretty broad brush assertion based on a caricature of fiscal conservatism. The point we are trying to make is it is better to have several choices of quality coverage than to have junk coverage forced upon us. Suppose your Obamacare panel decides that you knew the risks when you got on the motorcycle and witholds treatment to ration the care to someone else? Now that care will be rationed on a triage basis I sure hope none of us fall within the "expendable" category.

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Conservatives and Republicans have always maintined that it is better to enforce the laws already in place than to make more unenforceable laws. The Constitution is there to protect Liberty, not public safety. If you want public safety then I suggest a safer country such as North Korea or Iran or even Syria if you live in the pro Assad side of town.

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Again, the whole story has been missed. If businesses weren't saddled with the costs of massive regulatory burdens, taxes, fees, assessments, and long term unemployment claims then there would be enough jobs so that people wouldn't need long term unemployment. It's the system that creates the environment where people go broke.

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I listen to snippets of Rush a few times a year. Unfortunately, his show is on during work hours so I never get to hear him. I just read a lot, apply critical thinking and try to keep an open mind.

I bet you if the army of satan were headed our way the Catholic and the Baptist could overcome some phylosophical differences for the time being.

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How about up to 5,000 Kurds in just one attack in Halabja? Joe Wilson told you he had nuclear weapons, it was Bush who relayed intelligence reports that Saddam was investigating purchasing yellow cake uranium. Remember how Joe Wilson railed against words no one ever said to make himself famous?

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Nay, what I was sharing was the story that was the basis for the movie Argo to make the point that there is much classified information that we won't learn for many more years but what we do know for certain is pretty darning as it is.

You Go, Dane.. good post