nope. I value your input on every other topic but this one JOG.
I've yet to find any conspiracy theorist who can even begin to explain how explosive charges were planted, who and how many were involved etc....
Until you can realistically create a feasible story how that could have been done;  ignoring evidence right in front of you and going through piles of ruble recreating an castrophic event after the fact is nonsense. I want one of you 9/11 guys to spend some time on how it could have been pulled off.

Oooo cool the Bush crime family was involved ... OK I have to say, I'm going to let this topic be JOG's cos it works well to my Bush Bashing ...
Throw in a few Cheney is the devil slogans and I'm all yours.
Cool.
Srinath.

Securacom

This is as meaningless as the fact the Bush and Hinckley families knew each other. (both families were in the oil business; of course they knew each other…)

I looked up Securacom. They had contracts for dozens of buildings and corporations.

Kroll Inc. - Securacom sold security-related equipment to the New York Port Authority for the security of the World Trade Center. Securacom's contract for the sale of equipment was terminated in 1998.
Marvin Bush, son of US president George H.W. Bush, and brother to US president George W. Bush, served on the board of directors from 1993- 2000, leaving prior to the attacks on the WTC.

Again, you are doing the equivalent of going to a junk yard with a pre-conceived story and then looking for items that match your theory. Every item you come up with is easily explained away. Nothing you’ve given me so far is unanswered.

Show me a verified copy of a memo which ordered the business’s in all 3 towers, on the two floors where the collapse started, (and I’ll accept any memo for building 7)stating they needed to evacuate their offices while they performed maintenance that for some unknown reason, could not be done at night?

elevator columns are not perimeter columns.

Again, you would have to kick out numerous business, have them shut down for a couple days, tear apart the walls, find some way to place hundreds of pounds of explosives in hundreds of different areas in 3 different buildings and everything worked despite getting hit by planes traveling 500 mps and a 2000 degree fire. And now, no one can produce a memo or a hundred witness that could say "yes, i had to leave the 74 floor for two days" and someone else say "I had to leave the other tower etc....."

If you are going to cite logic when you examine the wreckage of 9/11, all i'm asking is you use logic throughout the entire process.

Architects & engineers agree with me.Lots of them

lots of them do not. after all this time, any explosive that was secret back then would be common today.

all i ask is for you or someone to explain a viable  and reasonable plan how the explosive could have been planted in 3 large commercial buildings without anyone knowing. how dozens and dozens of people knew they were going to kill 25,000 people and no one has spilled the beans yet, how the planes hit the exact floors they needed to hit and how the explosvies remained intact and of course, why and who did this to begin with.

both of those are war situations which is vastly different and those secrets are out which by the way, is how the terrorist kept in a secret.

By the way, it's been 12 years; if there were secrets, they'd be out by now.

I guess it's time to punt on this. I will never, in a million years, believe for one second 9/11 was anything other than what it was.

Paraquat wrote on 03/04/13 at 09:17:57:



Disaster response plans are national secret ... I dont think they can ever declassify all of em.
However I dont think the govt blew up any buildings. Fires progress up the elevator and other internal passages. The buildings are insulated on the outside, not inside. It will hold the heat in.
The collapse was indeed like a demolition, but I think a fire should also cause something similar.

Cool.
Srinath.

srinath wrote on 02/13/13 at 05:31:36:


Here in Washington state Motorcycles are not required to have insurance, so we can remove that off your list.