WebsterMark wrote on 02/18/13 at 09:37:34:


I can assure you this didn't happen to WTC 2. I have friends I have spoken to about it about 5-6 years ago.
Am I agreeing with webster here ?

JOG - How big the fire needs to be depends on how low in the building it is and how hot it is ... and a gas or electrical fire can get extremely hot, still be relatively small and cause serious damage and barely be visible, and once the building is down, it may not even have been visible. Its easily explainable how it fell ... however where are you going with the building being demolished ?

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Srinath.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/19/13 at 05:44:27:



OK demolitions are done with dynamite right ? dynamite has a distinch smell, not the general burning of say paper smell ... ask those firemen if they smelled that.

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Srinath.

Nope, the clock disproves the Floors Pancaking idea. ERven the report says that didnt happen,
Every time a floofr falls onto another there is energy absorbed & time spent. The towers fell too fast for that to have been the case.
There were a few segments of time when building 7 very nearly achieved free fall speed. That means almost Zero resistance.
A piece of wax shattering is quite different from hundreds of corner connections thru a building giving up all at the same time.

Nope, the clock disproves the Floors Pancaking idea. ERven the report says that didnt happen,

What report? The NIST says their working theory is undermind completely by the time it took the buildings to fall? I don't believe that's what the report says.

Seismic data shows a gradual building up of shock waves

How was it that metal was still glowing red when it was dug up weeks after?

1) I'm not sure that is true. I would need to see video with some type of  time stamp. I would not trust 'what someone says they saw'. I've heard some guy talk about what the firemen said, but when I read their full statments, it's clear he took what they said out of context for example.

2) Many materials retain heat and do not degrade quickly in a non-oxygen environment even without a constant replacment of energy source. I believe this is known as an exothermic reaction.  I learned this the hard way selling carbon fiber when a ‘cooled’ load of partially carbonized fiber ignited after 16 hours or so when the heat built back up in the fiber while it sat in the warehouse. I have no idea if steel can have this same property. I do know tires can burn below surface for months if not years.

You REALLY think those Tall Skinny building fell straight down & would not have fallen over & that happened from a fire? REally?

I think it’s somewhat intuitive isn’t it? One section of the floor eventually gave way and broke free of the columns. As it fell, it pulled the other corners free since they were also weak. As it hit the floor below which was also weakened by the heat, they broke free and so on. At some point, they hit floors where the columns were unaffected by the heat, but the weight and energy was too great for them to support it so they gave way. If you’re saying the building fell straight down, that’s not true. Look at the videos and you can see a tiny shift to one side. The buildings were so large it looks like it fell straight down, but I can see a slight slant to one side. Just look at the video. Also, you can completely discard the ‘free fall’ theory as well. You can see in the video objects falling faster than the building. Look at it. Isn’t the reason because the floors were held up a fraction of a second until they broke free by the weight? At least for the first few floors; after that I doubt they offered any resistance.

For a Troofer much of any engineering evidence makes no difference ... they'd use pseudo scientific jargon like "freefall" and so on to try to prove their point ...

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Srinath.

If youd take the time to go study a few of the timed videos , (or did the NRA block those, too?) youd see that building 7, not hit by a plane, DID reach freefall speed, That you cant read that word & understand the significance isnt my problem. But, it means there was ZERO resistance from the buildings framework,.,
That means pancaking did not occur.

However,, back to the Pancake theory,

What was it the floors Broke Free FROM?