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royblueboy YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 48 Gender:	oil change=overfill 01/12/13 at 19:46:22 I changed oil &filter today. added 2.5 ots oil. after warming the engine, i checked the sight gauge and it showed full. should I drain some oil? Will it hurt to run it slightly over on the oil? Thanks
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12Bravo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 628 Mid-Missouri Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #1 - 01/12/13 at 19:56:06 Did you check with the bike upright or on the side stand? If checked upright, put it on side stand and check again. If it is at the bottom/lower part of the window while ion the side stand, you'll be OK. Quite a few of us here check on the side stand which would show overfull if checked with the bike upright.
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royblueboy YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 48 Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #2 - 01/12/13 at 19:58:37 on the side stand no oil in window. upright window full . thanks
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Reply #4 - 01/12/13 at 20:41:32

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Older bikes called for 2.5 quarts. The newer ones call for 2.1 quarts. 2.1 quarts puts mine right on the upper full marks with bike up-right as called for in the manual.

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My 2007 didn't have the manual when I bought it used, so I did my first oil change looking at an older manual that's posted in the technical documents/reference section. I was a little confused when it seemed about full to the gills after only 2 quarts. Glad to know I'm not the only one who had this problem on their first go 'round Cheesy

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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #5 - 01/12/13 at 21:26:57 I'm in the minority here, but I'd pull oil back out until the oil level was about a third of the way to the bottom mark below the top mark by the sight glass, with the bike level.
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Reply #6 - 01/13/13 at 09:17:36

Bike only needs 2 quarts... even the older ones. Manual wasn't translated correctly from metric specs. Pretty common, older conversion tables are nowhere near right.

With the extra pint in there don't be surprised to see some oil weeps at the black cam covers, the head plug or the stator harness grommet. You may also find a bit of oil in the airbox, behind the front drive pulley, or around the valve covers. Whether or not it leaks is entirely dependent upon how well your engine was assembled. Some leak, some don't. Mine weeps oil even with the right amount in it, has since it was new.

Running too much oil does rob a bit of power as the crank is constantly running in fluid instead of nearly dry like designed. But you won't notice the difference on a low horse power engine.

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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #7 - 01/13/13 at 11:27:21 I agree with D, Drain some out.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28769 L.A. California Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #8 - 01/13/13 at 12:12:14 I personally wouldn't worry about a 1/2 qt. But if you want to drain some out... remove the timing port and it'll come out to about the right level.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #9 - 01/13/13 at 13:21:16 You mean the funny looking giant slotted plug in the left hand cover? The one that breaks if you look at it wrong? The one that you shouldn't touch unless you already have a spare handy... the one you can replace with hex head early CA/CB/CL valve access port covers... if you are lucky and can find the right size...
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Reply #10 - 01/14/13 at 06:09:52

I have never read or heard of any ill effects from running more oil than the manual suggests. Myself,....I will never use the "upright" method again. I always keep the level between the marks on the sidestand. Anytime I walk by my bike, I had better see oil in that glass. And its been that way for 7K miles. (PO did it that way too) And you'll never see a drop of oil under it either.

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Reply #11 - 01/14/13 at 07:21:04

Verslagen and Routy are telling you straight.

There are two ways to check your oil, the Suzuki Standard (owner's manual) way and the List way.

With the bike on the side stand, the oil should be just visible at the bottom of the oil check window.

Using this method gives you an extra half quart of reserve oil, and in a motorcycle that is notorious for using a bit of oil (when the bikes get older, anyway) this is important to you as the owner's manual method leaves very little reserve oil in the sump and puts you too close to "oil death" due to normal consumption for my tastes.

Search for "list oil check method" or "oil level wars" or "hot test" and you can read all about this oil level research in the original threads.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1312152619

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Reply #12 - 01/14/13 at 10:51:26

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 01/14/13 at 07:21:04:

Verslagen and Routy are telling you straight.

There are two ways to check your oil, the Suzuki Standard (owner's manual) way and the List way.

With the bike on the side stand, the oil should be just visible at the bottom of the oil check window.

Using this method gives you an extra half quart of reserve oil, and in a motorcycle that is notorious for using a bit of oil (when the bikes get older, anyway) this is important to you as the owner's manual method leaves very little reserve oil in the sump and puts you too close to "oil death" due to normal consumption for my tastes.

Search for "list oil check method" or "oil level wars" or "hot test" and you can read all about this oil level research in the original threads.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1312152619

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She can check my oil anytime Cheesy

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #13 - 01/14/13 at 12:47:27 Gee....I wonder if she is looking for a dipstick?
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Blinky-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Three Eyes Are Better Than Two Posts: 528 Kentucky Gender:	Re: oil change=overfill Reply #14 - 01/14/13 at 13:00:55 maybe one popped out and rolled under the bike? silicone can be tricky stuff if overfilled.
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