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Reply #30 - 01/23/23 at 06:44:39
 

And if you compare this incident with Trump's documents. What are your conclusions?

 I think there are too many differences to conclude much more than what I have said.  I don't know the content of the documents, the intent, or in Biden's case, how they got there.

 I'm not a fan of filling the blanks with my imagination then claiming them as fact.
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Reply #31 - 01/23/23 at 06:51:31
 

"Do you feel Brandon broke the law?"

 I would say yes in regards to the Presidential Records Act, but I am unsure how this scenario applies to the complimentary portion - the Espionage Act, as applies mostly "when an aggravating factor is present".  If he was aware, then yes.  If he was not aware then no.

 This is in accordance to actual law, not imagined scenario law where opinion is portrayed as fact.  My opinions aren't relevant to how the law is applied here.
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Reply #32 - 01/23/23 at 07:38:07
 
The way the law is written requires intent... tRump's is clear... Biden remains to be seen.
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Reply #33 - 01/23/23 at 08:04:11
 
The law requires intent? Intent to do what?
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Reply #34 - 01/23/23 at 08:19:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/23/23 at 07:38:07:
The way the law is written requires intent... tRump's is clear... Biden remains to be seen.



Which law are you referring to?

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Reply #35 - 01/23/23 at 08:22:09
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/23/23 at 07:38:07:
The way the law is written requires intent... tRump's is clear... Biden remains to be seen.




Trump can't hold a candle to Brandon.  50m+ from anonymous Chinese donations, Hunter getting diamonds from the CCP, selling our national oil reserves to China, classified documents turning up in Chinatown...........

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Reply #36 - 01/23/23 at 09:29:06
 
You're building  a puzzle with half the pieces...
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Reply #37 - 01/23/23 at 09:58:18
 
You call it a puzzle? OK..

This puzzle also has a lid with the picture on it, of what it will look like when it is finished. So you may not be able to find the hidden puzzle pieces, but you know what the picture looks like.
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Reply #38 - 01/23/23 at 10:32:11
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/23/23 at 07:38:07:
The way the law is written requires intent... tRump's is clear... Biden remains to be seen.



Intent? Inadvertently breaking the law means you don't get in trouble? When did they start that? And all these years I've been told
Ignorance of the law is no excuse..

So, can you show me what you're talking about?
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Reply #39 - 01/23/23 at 10:35:30
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/23/23 at 09:29:06:
You're building  a puzzle with half the pieces...


Coming from a guy who cuts the pieces to fit his puzzle, that’s hilarious!

Trump never said Nazis were fine people or you should drink bleach. You just pull those pieces out from the box and trim them until they fit.

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Reply #40 - 01/23/23 at 10:46:39
 
That was a question Trump asked in public. If that medicine would work.

He referred to a, do it your self medicine, that is used in many developing countries against parasites, bacteria and viruses.

If you look at the mortality rate in Africa from covid, you can see that that treatment method has worked.

Of course that was, and still is, used to paint Trump as an idiot.
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Reply #41 - 01/23/23 at 14:17:09
 
Intent? Inadvertently breaking the law means you don't get in trouble? When did they start that? And all these years I've been told
Ignorance of the law is no excuse..

So, can you show me what you're talking about?


 That's pretty much all US law.

 It's like the difference between Murder 1 and Manslaughter.  For instance Alec Baldwin most likely did not have "intent to murder" Hutchins, but that doesn't mean he won't get into trouble for killing her.  Or since people will cry about it: Specifically it doesn't mean he won't be charged with a crime, however he may not be found guilty.

 If Trump thought he had declassified documents in full and could keep them, then his intent is not to "steal" documents.  But if his intent was to take them even without completing the proper procedures then it is applied differently under US law as he had intent to keep them illegally.

 If Biden knew about the garage documents and intended on keeping them, that is different than not knowing they were collecting exhaust from his corvette.  His intent to keep them is a factor.

 The Espionage Act requires intent.  They don't prosecute and execute every federal employee or contractor that ended up with classified documents because they factor in intent.  They may get "into trouble" but they aren't imprisoned or killed for things they didn't know about or intend to screw up.
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Reply #42 - 01/23/23 at 14:22:07
 

If you look at the mortality rate in Africa from covid, you can see that that treatment method has worked.

 I'd like to see that information.  What I have seen is taking whole numbers and ignoring the percentages.  Also it ignores geographical components, like comparing inner-city rates in the US to thousands of open-acre land in Africa, instead of more accurately comparing rural US farmland to African tribal open land.
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Reply #43 - 01/23/23 at 15:30:32
 
That's pretty much all US law.


That is not accurate.................

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Reply #44 - 01/23/23 at 17:34:12
 
pg wrote on 01/23/23 at 15:30:32:
That's pretty much all US law.


That is not accurate.................

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Actually, on second thought.............
As you said it may lift the burden of proof for Biden and his classified docs next to his vette.  Comey said that would suffice for Hillary.  That was the likely defense for Hunter with the crack pipe in the car, or incriminating evidence of shady business deals with the 'big guy;.

I stand corrected.

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