https://liliputing.com/2022/02/intel-outlines-roadmap-for-raptor-lake-meteor-... Intel spells out their marketing lies for the next 3 years.
Read the thing and look at the pretty graphics ---- yes that next two generations covered in the first slide
is really just the same Intel 10nm all over again as Intel simply hasn't got their 7nm process (Intel 4) working right so Intel can roll over into it.
New BS names, even higher current draws and even bigger heat levels produced ---- but still Intel 10nm.
Beyond that, in the short term it all depends on if Intel can get TSMC to run whole lots of Intel chips in bulk at 5nm and at 3nm for them or not. Intel 4 (alias the old Intel 7nm) still has ongoing overheating and performance issues and
very low yields so don't be counting on Intel 4 roll in to save the day any time soon.
Intel NEEDS TSMC 5nm and 3nm ....... very badly.Look for the purple blocks that indicate TSMC is hopefully running the stuff for Intel. Now, if TSMC decides NOT to support a competitor fab named Intel, this will never happen. And Intel immediately fails ......Another variable is the brand new 5nm lithography scanner equipment Intel just bought from ASML -- can they actually make up an Intel design that actually runs on either of these two slightly different 5nm processes?
So far, no luck with that either.
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The press attending the Intel open question segment of the big event yesterday was full of harsh hardball questions for Pat Gelsinger about how Intel was going to ramp up their 10nm and 4nm production levels with so few pieces of equipment that can actually run those processes.
One guy even asked Pat how he could explain the ongoing loss of 35% of Intel's old supremacy with 25% being lost in just this last year alone. Pat made noises about turning 10 years worth of bad management completely around next year, but he then got asked pointedly about stopping the bleeding this year and he hummed and hawed a bit over that one right along with the next few questions about Intel not dealing with their processors over heating and the now quite extreme watts of power draw (currently up to 250 watts, or
~200 watts~ more than AMD requires to do the same job).
I am not the only voice out there that thinks that Intel is still rapidly failing on several fronts and Intel is simply NOT getting significantly better nearly fast enough.Both computer enthusiasts and stock holders are no longer deluded by Intel's pretty slide shows and positive pitch presentations of the newest Intel room heaters. Pat Gelsinger's house of cards is indeed very shaky.
The progression of the hard numbers say that Intel is still busy failing in the marketplace as we watch ....... Intel just took another 10% decline in their stock price while AMD went up 6% in the same time frame. This pushed Intel's "net capitalization" stock valuation to be less than AMD/Xilinx total net value for the first time ever.
The EU environmental wackos are now even talking about new regulations limiting the very recent explosive growth in excess "waste computer watts" draw as a "growing environmental concern".
Apple and AMD don't have this concern, only Intel runs their stuff as impromptu room heaters. Apple at 5nm didn't even have their fans come on during testing, and at 3nm this is even more unlikely.
x86 with 5nm AMD, yes the fans will run ---- but only lower wattage small fans. Within the next 6 months we will see early test results from both Apple at 3nm and AMD at 5nm so then we will KNOW how badly disadvantaged Intel truly remains.
AMD's rumor mill is talking about adding core counts to the main PC (and to the higher processor products as well) again due to having lots of socket and die space available due to much smaller and higher density TSMC 5nm lithography. The sources mention adding a "boutique chiplet" with Xylinx AI functionality to the AMD performance mix along with full ray tracing gaming level graphics built into all AMD processors.
We will believe it all when we see it, of course.
AMD plans to raise their rated current draw to 180 watts or thereabouts, as the extra cores, AI and better graphics will suck some extra power. You still come out ahead on watts used in total because you won't need a dedicated separate 250-300 watt graphics card or to power all those extra sticks of RAM systems memory.
Plus, AMD built in on chip Smart Access Memory will be available to all AMD functions, and at 128 gig of Smart Access Memory this is a considerable pool of fast access GPU grade memory to support gaming graphics and some REALLY REALLY HUGE spreadsheets when doing real work type work.