New rumors about AMD's 3nm chipsets are coming out in the info flow from oriental suppliers.
Ryzen 3000 Matisse 7nm (Zen 2) 16/32 105W AM4 500-Series DDR4-3200 Gen 4.0 2019
Ryzen 5000 Vermeer 7nm (Zen 3) 16/32 105W AM4 500-Series DDR4-3200 Gen 4.0 2020
Ryzen 5000 3D Warhol? 7nm (Zen 3D) 8/16 105W AM4 500-Series DDR4-3200 Gen 4.0 2022
Ryzen 7000 Raphael 5nm (Zen 4) 16/32? 105-170W AM5 600-Series DDR5-5200/5600? Gen 5.0 2022
Ryzen 7000 3D Raphael 5nm (Zen 4) 16/32? 105-170W AM5 600-Series DDR5-5200/5600? Gen 5.0 2023
Ryzen 8000 Granite Ridge 3nm (Zen 5)? TBA TBA AM5 700-Series? DDR5-5600+ Gen 5.0
Name for the AMD 3nm stuff is Ryzen 8000 Granite RidgeIntel keeps on frothing about 24 cores (some big some little). AMD does not see a lot of advantage in lots of little cores once the main core count goes over 10 as minor tasks can be allocated to an idle larger processor just as easily.
When AMD posts core counts of 16 they are talking larger main performance cores that can support 2-4 threads per core. Intel little cores can only do one thread at a time.
Next questionable item is how many threads per core is going to be available as AMD has tested up to 4 threads per core ..... but once again AMD did not see much real advantage in the higher thread per core counts right now under existing Microsoft OS systems.
This is also why Linux systems test better than MS systems do right now. This is another reason MS sux compared to Linux --- especially in more powerful machines.
If Microsoft creates an OS that actually uses processor threads better, this could all change up fairly rapidly.
AMD has upped the speed of their newest cores to 5.4 gigahertz --- this along with a memory system and an I/O system that is equally fast means better computing throughput overall will be available.
When Intel is behind in a product class (and it so definitely is right now) Intel just copies the leader of that class in great detail.
Intel has started copying Apple mobile product core designs and Intel is copying AMD's chiplet design patterns for consumer PCs as well.
Intel has lots of legal resources, and once shown a better way forward quickly tries to make that path their own. Intel will immediately try to patent your better idea or something very close to it then sue you (the real originator) for patent infringement and then settle out of court for "shared rights".
AMD's current Threadripper product line is getting lapped by AMD's normal line up and by Intel's 24 core products so expect it to go away soon. It may be back later with a new generation of processor chiplets (and when AMD has enough spare chiplet allocations to give to it).
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https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-zen-architecture-roadmap-leaked/Full AMD Zen road map leaked, giving a peek of what’s comingBy Monica J. White
May 13, 2022
We’re still months away from the launch of AMD Ryzen 7000 “Zen 4” processors, but new leaks tell us more not just about Zen 4, but also about its successors: AMD Zen 5 and Zen 6.
Although there’s plenty to be excited about with the Zen 4, AMD seems to have even bigger performance jumps in store for us in the future, if the rumored architecture of Zen 5 is anything to go by.
This massive round of leaks comes from YouTube channel Moore’s Law is Dead. Citing anonymous sources, the YouTuber talked about what we can expect in terms of architecture from the upcoming AMD Ryzen chips. This includes both consumer-level chips (AMD Zen 4, Zen 5, and Zen 6) as well as Zen 4C, which is aimed at data centers.
The upcoming AMD Ryzen 7000 Zen 4 CPUs are said to retain a similar architecture to Zen 4 and will bring an upgrade in terms of cores and clock speeds. Zen 4 may bring a significant instruction-per-clock (IPC) boost, ranging from 15% to 24%. Single-threaded operations may see an uplift of 28% to 37%, and the same will be true for multi-threaded performance, although the boost may be even bigger.
As mentioned, clock speeds will definitely be higher in the Zen 4 lineup than they are in AMD’s current arsenal. Twitter user Petykemano has recently spotted what appears to be a very early benchmark of the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X. The processor hit 5.2GHz, marking a significant upgrade over its predecessor — the Ryzen 7 5800X can only hit up to 4.7GHz. However, it appears that the Zen 4 CPU retains the same number of cores as the Ryzen 7 5800X, appearing with eight cores and 16 threads in the benchmark. Keep in mind that the listing has since disappeared, so all of this is subject to change.
Zen 4 is also said to double the size of the L2 cache while keeping the L3 cache the same as in Zen 3. Another huge change for AMD, which is not news at this point, is the fact that the processors will finally support PCIe 5.0, DDR5, and LPDDR5. This will remove the edge Intel Alder Lake has had over AMD throughout the year, seeing as Zen 3 doesn’t support these technologies. On the downside, the rumor mill has been buzzing with the news that Zen 4 may have no DDR4 support whatsoever.
AMD Ryzen 7000 Zen 4 rumors.
Moore's Law is Dead
Lastly, the Zen 4 lineup will cover a vast range of processors. The DIY market will receive a full range of Ryzen 7000 Raphael CPUs sometime in the second half of 2022. Laptop users have AMD Ryzen 7000 Dragon Range and Phoenix to look forward to, with both set to release in early 2023. There are also AMD EPYC Genoa 7004 processors set to launch in the fourth quarter of 2022 and Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak in the first half of 2023.
Following Zen 4, AMD will release the 5nm-based Zen 4C, which will target data centers. While the AMD Genoa will utilize Zen 4 cores, the follow-up AMD Bergamo will switch to Zen 4C, bringing the core count up to 128 cores (whereas Genoa will max out at 96). Bergamo will also offer up to 256 threads, and it will be compatible with the same LGA 6096 socket as its predecessor. We can also expect 12-channel memory support.
We’re done with Zen 4, but there’s more to talk about, namely the future. AMD Zen 5 is still a while away, but all the sources cited by Moore’s Law is Dead expect it to arrive only 11 to 15 months after the launch of Zen 4. While that’s a short time, the CPUs are said to bring major upgrades, with a performance leap as big as Zen 2.
Zen 5 is said to come with a full architectural redesign, resulting in a huge IPC boost, seemingly larger than what the switch from Zen 3 to Zen 4 will bring. On the other hand, the clock speeds will not change much, but we will see changes made to the data fabric and a fully reorganized cache design. AMD’s Zen 5 processors are rumored to be based on TSMC’s N3 or N4P process node.
AMD Zen 5 and Zen 6 leaks.
Moore's Law is Dead
The first Zen 5 product line to ship may be the EPYC Turin CPU, set to arrive in the second half of 2023. The consumer-level products won’t appear for a while, with Ryzen 8000 Granite Ridge (desktop) expected in late 2024 and Ryzen 8000 Strix Point (laptop APU) in early 2025.
As for AMD Zen 6, we’re still a long while away from its launch, and by the time it’s released, it may not even be called “Zen” anymore. The naming convention seems to be a bit up in the air, but things on the specification front are quite exciting, including higher core counts and clock speeds, a new cache design, new accelerators, and more.We got Intel going silent as AMD laps their best big little 10nm stuff. Intel desperately needs a fresh new lithography and is asking TSMC to provide it for them at TSMC 3nm ---- which is years away at this point in time.
See AMD continue taking even more market share from Intel with this action to continue until Intel has a
for real better product to sell.
Intel's response is to put out "more Intel marketing" which smells like more puffs of brown vapor and hidden higher current draw BS run off of 10nm and eventually on Intel 7nm whenever/if ever they get it running right.
AMD is now running chiplets off 5nm nodes at TSMC right now for real and is shipping sample processors built with them.
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