T And T Garage wrote on 11/18/19 at 14:01:45:


Somewhat?   It's sociopathy elevated to virtue.

pg wrote on 11/18/19 at 15:14:51:



Altruism:

the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.
"some may choose to work with vulnerable elderly people out of altruism"

No, it's sad that anyone would reject these types of behaviour.

pg wrote on 11/19/19 at 05:52:51:


You clearly didn't understand "disinterested and selfless concern"- altruism can not pivot on the regard or performance of others.   Again, sociopathic.

pg wrote on 11/19/19 at 05:52:51:


As much as I can, given my time restraints.

I give back to St. Jude, I worked at a fundraiser for Combat Bike Saver, I'll be working for TFT and at the Great Chicago Food Depository in mid December.

That's only a small part.




What have you done?

pg wrote on 11/19/19 at 06:47:43:


Typically I lament distractions from the lead topic- here, the courts compelling the delivery of documents as part of a prosecution -but this diversion may bear far more substantial fruit.

I rarely achieve "indiscriminate" altruism- judgement is a natural reflex I am subject to.  'Is that a tiger in the bush, or just the wind?'  'Is this need worthy of what I can offer?' is, by my reckoning, a necessary question.

Most of my direct doing for others begins with folks I know; for strangers, direct giving of food or money is more typical, usually unplanned.  1 day packing boxes at a food bank is something I did this year, but nothing I would brag about- rather, it underlines my limited participation.  

I often carry food in the truck to disperse at traffic lights to those who ask for food; I can't validate that need, and usually don't try to.   If the person petitioning for help is smoking a cigarette, I tend to give to someone else.   I suspect most interpret cues to discriminate need in this way- accurate or not.

I'm not sure if altruism actually requires selflessness- I reckon the calculation to help or not often involves our vision of self.   I believe most of us would be more readily involved in helping others were we less isolated in our communities; those times when I've been handed a chance to help, I was grateful for the opportunity.   A lack of participation doesn't equate to a lack of care- it's just so easy to become walled off in our own reality; that doesn't really define us.

Some folks need to see a demonstration of effect and equity- they may help a stranded motorist, rescue a flood victim, or help with the education of an impoverished child, but then object to something like healthcare reform.   I get that, even if I view it as a limitation of imagination.

Topically, as part of a settlement, Trump has admitted to stealing from charity.   More than just a lack of altruism, it is the opposite- and speaks to the character of the man seeking to hide his record.

pg wrote on 11/19/19 at 08:25:49:

Mavigogun wrote on 11/19/19 at 14:10:41:



I agree with much of this statement.  Please note the deleted portion, I do not need a personal benefit.  I use the term 'indiscriminate basis' so I may provide general boundaries; I prefer to see the direct benefits of my efforts.

Now, off to the links...

Best regards,