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Reply #15 - 11/11/19 at 14:14:41
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:39:11:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:30:50:


trump is most definitely hiding something.  To deny that is to be ignorant.  I'm not denying he's hiding something. And I'm not ignorant.

Touchy much?

Only 2 possible explanations. No, there's another.

1 - he's a crook
2 - he's a worse businessman than anyone thought


#3 ?



No, there is no 3.



A Tax Loss Carryforward (also called a Net Operating Loss NOL carryforward).

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Reply #16 - 11/12/19 at 07:15:54
 
pg wrote on 11/11/19 at 14:14:41:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:39:11:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:30:50:


trump is most definitely hiding something.  To deny that is to be ignorant.  I'm not denying he's hiding something. And I'm not ignorant.

Touchy much?

Only 2 possible explanations. No, there's another.

1 - he's a crook
2 - he's a worse businessman than anyone thought


#3 ?



No, there is no 3.



A Tax Loss Carryforward (also called a Net Operating Loss NOL carryforward).

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BFD.... that's no reason hide your taxes...

He's either a crook or a failed businessman.

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Reply #17 - 11/12/19 at 10:09:48
 
You knew the name Donald Trump 20 or 30 years ago. His name is on buildings across the globe. When he was giving money to the Democrats or accepting NAACP awards, you no doubt thought well of him, glad to have him on your side.

Billionaire? Don't know. Hundreds of millions? Sure.

Calling Donald Trump a failed businessman is like calling you someone with a clear perspective of the world. The evidence doesn't support either one.

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Reply #18 - 11/12/19 at 10:20:57
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/19 at 10:09:48:
You knew the name Donald Trump 20 or 30 years ago. His name is on buildings across the globe. When he was giving money to the Democrats or accepting NAACP awards, you no doubt thought well of him, glad to have him on your side.

Billionaire? Don't know. Hundreds of millions? Sure.

Calling Donald Trump a failed businessman is like calling you someone with a clear perspective of the world. The evidence doesn't support either one.



Well then, what's he got to hide?
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Reply #19 - 11/12/19 at 11:29:50
 
I know.

What would an international businessman, whose despised by the media and entertainment culture, has galvanized the opposition party against him like no other President in history, who has the Democrats in Congress right now pi$$ing away hundreds of years of American jurisprudence history, who faces ridiculous fake news articles on a daily basis, want to keep away from the aforementioned scum?
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Reply #20 - 11/12/19 at 11:52:21
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/12/19 at 11:29:50:
I know.

What would an international businessman, whose despised by the media and entertainment culture, has galvanized the opposition party against him like no other President in history, who has the Democrats in Congress right now pi$$ing away hundreds of years of American jurisprudence history, who faces ridiculous fake news articles on a daily basis, want to keep away from the aforementioned scum?



Well, if he's so goddarned great - then why the secrecy?

Like I said - 2 reasons.

1 - Inept
2 - Corrupt
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Reply #21 - 11/12/19 at 14:51:49
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/12/19 at 07:15:54:
pg wrote on 11/11/19 at 14:14:41:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:39:11:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/04/19 at 13:30:50:


trump is most definitely hiding something.  To deny that is to be ignorant.  I'm not denying he's hiding something. And I'm not ignorant.

Touchy much?

Only 2 possible explanations. No, there's another.

1 - he's a crook
2 - he's a worse businessman than anyone thought


#3 ?



No, there is no 3.



A Tax Loss Carryforward (also called a Net Operating Loss NOL carryforward).

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BFD.... that's no reason hide your taxes...

He's either a crook or a failed businessman.




When you are making millions and have no tax burden because of a TLC, it could be looked at in an unfavorable manner.

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Reply #22 - 11/12/19 at 15:05:48
 
pg wrote on 11/12/19 at 14:51:49:
When you are making millions and have no tax burden because of a TLC, it could be looked at in an unfavorable manner.

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So?

If he's such a "great businessman", he'd be able to explain what that means to a poor schlub like me... right?

No, sorry.

1 - He's an idiot
or
2 - He's a crook.
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Reply #23 - 11/13/19 at 03:26:41
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/12/19 at 15:05:48:
pg wrote on 11/12/19 at 14:51:49:
When you are making millions and have no tax burden because of a TLC, it could be looked at in an unfavorable manner.

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So?

If he's such a "great businessman", he'd be able to explain what that means to a poor schlub like me... right?

No, sorry.

1 - He's an idiot
or
2 - He's a crook.



Uninformed voters would struggle with the concept of tax burdens and the vicious liberal media would have a field day with it.

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Reply #24 - 11/13/19 at 04:43:26
 
Uninformed voters would struggle with the concept of tax burdens and the vicious liberal media would have a field day with it.

Tap in birdie for that answer PG. Would have given you an eagle had you included protecting other businesses from the leftist in our country would target if they showed up as partners with Trump.  

But those are both two sides of the same coin. While ignoring the reality every single wealthy leftist has their own strategies to hide their legal financial actions from view, they'd crucify Trump for his.

These lawsuits will make their way to the Supreme Court where they'll obviously lose. Kinda tough to make income taxes part of the requirements for President when there wasn't an income tax when the constitution was written.

But, i'm shocked it hasn't happened yet, someone will illegally release his taxes at some point and that person will be crowned a saint by leftist.

Now, is it possible Trump is a tax cheat. Sure. I'd say odds are 75% you could find something. Question is what is it and how many others do  the same. Regardless, with the media the way it is today, there would be no fair discussion, it would be like this impeachment BS.
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Reply #25 - 11/13/19 at 07:27:39
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/13/19 at 04:43:26:
Uninformed voters would struggle with the concept of tax burdens and the vicious liberal media would have a field day with it.

Tap in birdie for that answer PG. Would have given you an eagle had you included protecting other businesses from the leftist in our country would target if they showed up as partners with Trump.  

But those are both two sides of the same coin. While ignoring the reality every single wealthy leftist has their own strategies to hide their legal financial actions from view, they'd crucify Trump for his.

These lawsuits will make their way to the Supreme Court where they'll obviously lose. Kinda tough to make income taxes part of the requirements for President when there wasn't an income tax when the constitution was written.

But, i'm shocked it hasn't happened yet, someone will illegally release his taxes at some point and that person will be crowned a saint by leftist.

Now, is it possible Trump is a tax cheat. Sure. I'd say odds are 75% you could find something. Question is what is it and how many others do  the same. Regardless, with the media the way it is today, there would be no fair discussion, it would be like this impeachment BS.




Thanks for endorsing my point!

1 - He's an idiot
or
2 - He's a crook.

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Reply #26 - 11/14/19 at 03:32:42
 
As we knew all along, there was never a number 3- just a bunch of noise.
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Reply #27 - 11/15/19 at 15:43:37
 
update 11/11/2019
according to Trump he is "the most transparent president in history"
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Reply #28 - 11/16/19 at 05:31:58
 
Mavigogun wrote on 11/14/19 at 03:32:42:
As we knew all along, there was never a number 3- just a bunch of noise.


I gave a pretty detailed and solid number 3. Hardly a bunch of noise.

It's hard to deny the likelihood Trump's taxes would be treated fairly. Let's assume there's nothing significant in them that's out of line with anyone else in his income and business bracket. Trump had some casinos go bankrupt primarily in Atlantic City if I recall. He was not the only one. Those failures are a topic brought up on here repeatedly. Worth noting by those who've never been even remotely involved in a senior management position in an operation like that.

In a previous life, I was a credit manager for an heavy equipment provider so I've got some real world practical experience with reviewing financial statements and company history before investing funds to build custom equipment for a company. My authority limit was relatively small being a youngster in the business. 500k or a million, don't recall exactly, but I also participated in reviewing the really big ones. Here's the reality. Sure, there are large companies with spotless records on paper. And I'd emphasize the on paper part. But there are a lot of companies with somewhat of a checkered past.

Operating a business is hard, that's why only a few do it. You can be the smartest person in the world and fail because of circumstances out of your control. You can make 99 correct moves in a row but that last one might set up your demise. Or.....you can be dump as a rock and stumble into success.

One of the smartest people I ever worked for drove home that point repeatedly. Her point was to look at the broadest base of information as possible to arrive at the decision that was more likey to occur than the other. And even if you did all that and made the most educated decision that should deliver success,  you can still lose.

Point is, most every person in Trump's category has failures in the past, some more than others. I have no idea where Trump stacks up because let's face it, there aren't many Donald Trumps. If I were going to benchmark to someone, I'd look at Mark Cuban.

Certainly worth noting that Cuban made noise about running against Trump (and if you recall the idea was well received) but that has virtually disappeared. I wonder what role revealing all his business dealings played in that?
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Reply #29 - 11/16/19 at 13:21:07
 
...in other words, the truth has never favored Trump- and Trump has never favored the truth -so the elusive #3 is nothing more than validation of #1 or #2.

Mark's bloviating boils down to 'Trump's history, if known, would hurt him'.  As usual, he blames the observer, not the wrongdoer- and, as predicted, three equals zero.  That's Trumpian mathematics for ya- take a sum and shuffle it around until there's nothing left.

Trump stole charitable donations- including those intended for veterans, he swindled students who trusted Trump would help them toward a better life- yet Mark extends understanding to Trump as he breaks his campaign promise to release his taxes.  It ain't trust folks- it's commerce: Trump gets Mark's unwavering support, and, in return, Mark gets a president that resembles him.
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