I seem to remember Hillary was gonna crush someone.
Wrong then ,too.

WebsterMark wrote on 05/22/18 at 11:34:27:




when has any serious liberal in power ever suggested that in this nation??  <--actual question, not being a smartass

WebsterMark wrote on 05/22/18 at 10:01:08:



there were guns, yes, AR-15s as a status symbol... not so much, yes I'm well aware the last shooting was with a shotgun...


if this doesn't wake you up...  




all those other nations, they are much more liberal right? (besides maybe Japan),

they don't have armed teachers, they don't have metal detectors at every access-way to schools, etc...

they have video games, rap music, metal music, drugs, violence in movies/tv,  loose morals, no religion in schools, unbalanced teenagers, mental health issues, gangs...  don't they?

I'm against confiscating any guns, I don't want any guns banned, or any of that.  

I'd like existing laws enforced, and some educational components added to the gun owning process (I'll even pay additional taxes to provide for that) Gun safety and responsibility need to emphasized as part of owning a gun.  

that's all.

if teachers want to be armed to protect students, I'd hope they'd embrace a training program and regiment to be effective at it. but yes, a lot of things could be done to help protect our students at schools, but they aren't targets because they are "gun free" they are targets because the young MEN who are doing these things want to KILL PEOPLE THERE, the people are their targets, not the location. The last three schools there were shot HAD ARMED SECURITY. So guns just being there being a deterrent... idk.  Yes I understand there's a difference between 2-8 security officers and every classroom having a gun, but unless you are FORCING every teacher to now be a cop AND a teacher...  

Read that info carefully, the 288, ’School’  shootings.
are defined as anything on SCHOOL  Property.
Like Suicide, and Justifiable Police shootings.
It is a number, used by H.R.C. and the like,
to SCARE  people.

NRA and gun enthusiasts should just be intellectually honest...

Yes,.. guns are the problem
Yes, that's why other countries don't have our problem
...and yes,.. I like my guns so much that I'm willing to have these children pay the price for me.

Truth

WebsterMark wrote on 05/22/18 at 14:48:28:



here's how it was defined:


The time period: From January 1, 2009 to May 21, 2018.
The definition: The parameters we followed in this count are -
Shooting must involve at least one person being shot (not including the shooter)
Shooting must occur on school grounds
We included gang violence, fights and domestic violence (but our count is NOT limited to those categories)
We included grades Kindergarten through college/university level as well as vocational schools
We included accidental discharge of a firearm as long as the first two parameters are met.



https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/us/school-shooting-us-versus-world-trnd/index....

so, while there may not have been 288 mass school shootings, I think it's entirely believable that 288 shootings have occurred in America

and again, those same criteria....  and it's like 1 or 2 at MOST from other countries.....

even if that was a much lower number, there's a least 5 that I can recall... Newtown, Virgina Tech, Parkland, Maryland, Santa Fe, and that's without even trying. so 5 to 1... that's acceptable to you?  that's not including non school mass shootings, Vegas, Aurora, Pulse, Gifford, Charlotte Church, the Church in Texas and that's leaving out the terrorists' violence like Bernardino...  


There's a problem, it is guns, idk, but guns are used in all of those, not swords, not knives, not bombs, not vans, not trucks.....  

Mental illness?? sure, I'm all for having some state sponsored mental health programs.

Now, i'm going to go to the moves, Deadpool II, where a Hollywood actor will shot and kill countless on screen while wearing a gun control Tshirt on the next cover of People magazine. Go figure....

LostArtist wrote on 05/22/18 at 12:12:52:



Show me where I have been factually incorrect.
You Continue to believe things that have been adequately demonstrated to be

Wrong.

Explain how banning a type of gun will impact anything.

Did you actually believe those signs would have any impact on the behavior of people who are planning to
MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE?

Really?