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02/27/18 at 14:52:18
 
I just bought a 2006 S40 that a guy dumped, broke the handle bar stop on the left side and put a softball sized dent on the left side of the gas tank. I bought a new battery and tried to start it using the electric start but it doesn't do anything. The starter spins when I hook a hot wire up to it and ground it. All of the lights work, headlight, turn signals, four way flashers. Press the horn button and nothing. I was wondering if the starter switch and the horn button (opposite sides) are somehow connected together. I've removed the tank and checked all of the plug in connections, everything appeared fine. I'm thinking that the wires got pinched when the handlebars went all the way to the left but don't really want to unwrap them unless the two switches are tied in together.
I also replaced blown 20amp fuse (one of 2) that is located under the seat.
I would appreciate any help, because I'm the type of guy that likes to do things on his own to save money. Rather then taking it to the dealer.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Starting issues
Reply #1 - 02/27/18 at 15:09:44
 
check the clutch safety, it's on the left.
there's a switch on the under side of the clutch lever.
it has a connector going to it, pull the connector.
one of the leads will have 12v to ground when you push the start button.
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Reply #2 - 02/27/18 at 15:18:08
 
In nuetral kickstand up pull clutch in then push start button
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Reply #3 - 02/27/18 at 16:19:28
 
If the clutch switch is damaged you could just tie the two wires together and bypass it, but it is a good idea to pull the clutch in when ever your starting the bike.
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Reply #4 - 02/27/18 at 18:44:14
 
I appreciate the input provided. I  raised the kickstand, had the bike in neutral, squeezed the clutch lever, and pressed the button. All that happened was the headlight and front turn signals went off. When I released the button, the headlights and turn signal lights lit up. Electrical short perhaps?
Any help would be appreciated.
* I still haven't tried bypassing the clutch safety switch. If I unplug it will that work or do I have to cut the wires and connect them together?
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Reply #5 - 02/27/18 at 19:16:17
 
You got a response to the start button... it's not the clutch safety.

did you charge the battery?
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Reply #6 - 02/27/18 at 19:40:46
 
Brand new battery. Fully charged.
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Reply #7 - 02/27/18 at 20:14:34
 
He got it to spin the starter motor by jumping to the hot and put a ground on it.
The headlight and clearance lamps drop out, Aaand
Nuthin...

I'd be checking voltage to the solenoid.
But why the clearance lamps drop out, dangifiknow..
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Reply #8 - 02/27/18 at 21:01:04
 
If I'm reading the wiring diagram right ,when you hit the starter button it kills power to the headlight, horn, passing switch, speedometer light and the front running lights .but I think JOG is right ,I'd be looking to see if there is power at the solenoid. It may even be stuck due to the bike being dropped so hard.You could try jumping around the solenoid to see if the bike will turn over.
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Reply #9 - 02/27/18 at 22:28:22
 
If you want, you can just jumper from the hot side of the battery to the solenoid.
Be in neutral..
The two smaller wires activate the electromagnet that closes the switch.
One is ground. You need to hook up to the one that goes to the switch.

Don't let it spin long at all, just prove the solenoid works
Or not.
The lights are kinda freaking me out..
But the headlights supposed to drop when you hit the starter. Not sure about the others.
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Reply #10 - 02/27/18 at 22:37:34
 
I’ll follow through this weekend and post an update.
Thanks for all of the help.
At least I have options to try. Without you guys, I’d be hauling it to the dealer. I’m trying to avoid that.
My wife is pissed off as it is. She’s against me riding because we lost her brother in a motorcycle accident.
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Reply #11 - 02/28/18 at 14:07:20
 
Just tell her it's safer than taking a train,( Amtrack )and the avg. U.S. airliner is 14 yrs old.(the oldest fleet in the world ,as most new planes are sold overseas , doesn't look like we'll see that avg. going down soon.)
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Re: Starting issues
Reply #12 - 03/04/18 at 16:11:22
 
Changed the starter solenoid located under the seat. It still doesn't start when you push the button. I can hear a click inside of the starter but it won't start. Once again, if I connect a hot wire directly to the starter and one to ground it will start. Any ideas?
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Reply #13 - 03/04/18 at 17:32:55
 
Where are you calling
Ground?
Right now I'm leaning towards a bad ground.
Look on the right side, under the clutch.

Clean and tighten the ground.
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Reply #14 - 03/04/18 at 17:40:58
 
First the click you heard was probably the decomp , not the starter,  it doesn't click it just spins. You shouldn't have changed the starter solenoid until you used a voltage meter or test light to see if you had power to it . You could also take one side of a set of jumper cables to run from the battery to the output cable to check the starter ,or a ohm meter to check flow through the starter solenoid when you hit the starter button . you could also check the ground cable from the battery to the case( it connects to a case bolt just above the oil  level sightglass )and completes the circuit for the starter,make sure it is clean and tight.
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