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Reply #15 - 03/04/18 at 18:38:36
 
What side would the sight glass and ground bolt be? I assume the left side because that’s the negative side of the battery. If that’s the case, maybe the connection got damaged when the bike got dumped. What do you think?
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Reply #16 - 03/04/18 at 19:00:04
 
you need an owners manual.
check out the tech index link below
it's under manuals.

oil level window is on the right side.
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Reply #17 - 03/04/18 at 19:37:21
 
Starter solenoid was only $8.00, thought I’d give it a try.
I’ll check the ground wire near the sight glass. Hopefully that’s the problem.
I’ll keep everyone posted.
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Reply #18 - 03/04/18 at 19:41:25
 
Can I run a temporary ground wire to the negative side of the battery from the frame and see if that works? Just in case I can’t find the original ground?
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Reply #19 - 03/05/18 at 09:20:40
 
Let's get this right! The left or "driver 's" side of the bike is where the kickstand is ,the right or" passenger" side is the side with the muffler.Did You say the  positive side of your battery is on the left side of the bike and the neg .post of your battery on the right side? If it is you have the wrong battery for the bike and it's installed backward. the large neg. cable runs from the neg. post on the left side of the bike to a casing bolt on the right side of the bike just above the oil level sight glass window, which is just above where the exhaust header and muffler connect.IT is large ,like the big wires you changed on the solenoid,and needs to be as as it completes the circuit for the starter motor which draws the heaviest load on the bike.
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Reply #20 - 03/05/18 at 13:34:48
 
I have the right battery. negative on the left, positive on the right. I have to trace the large negative wire to make sure it isn't broken or kinked and to see that it is actually connects to a bolt near the sight glass. The were four leads on the solenoid, one large red, one large black, held on by bolts and two smaller wires that plugged in to the solenoid. Does that sound right? Just want confirmation. I put it together the way that it was.
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Reply #21 - 03/05/18 at 13:57:01
 
No way the battery is backwards if the lights come on.
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Reply #22 - 03/05/18 at 14:34:46
 
Really ? only if it's an led.
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Reply #23 - 03/05/18 at 14:42:02
 
Bobber wrote on 03/05/18 at 13:57:01:
No way the battery is backwards if the lights come on.

Think fried TCI, I don't think it's polarity protected.
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Reply #24 - 03/05/18 at 14:46:43
 
Dad220 ,I'm not sure but I think both of the large cables should have been red as they are part of the positive ,running from the battery ,through the solenoid and onto the starter motor. The ground cable is normally black and runs from the battery ground (neg.) to the bolt in the case above the oil sight glass.You need to have a volt/ohm meter and check things out ,Harbor Freight sells one for $5.99 item #63758/98025 and it comes with instructions.
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Reply #25 - 03/05/18 at 15:03:34
 
Based on what you're saying it appears that it's wired incorrectly at the solenoid? If both sides of the thick solenoid wires should be red, that means the black wire is on the wrong terminal. Unless the guy used a black wire because he didn't have red.
When it gets warmer, I still have to trace the negative wire from the battery to the bolt above the sight glass.
I'm working outside on my patio because I don't have a garage.
I'll be in touch.
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Reply #26 - 03/05/18 at 15:09:29
 
factory use red wire from the battery positive to the solenoid.
black from the solenoid to the starter.

and a black wire from battery negative to engine ground.
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Reply #27 - 03/05/18 at 15:18:08
 
Well I didn't say , the battery was wrong or was hooked up backward ,I said he should look,based on the fact that I didn't understand which side of the bike we were talking about. now IF the black cable hooked to the solenold is the ground cable and not the positive ,then he has no power going to the starter but I can't see that either,that's why I advised him again, to get a volt/ohm meter so that he could more easily determine the situation ,without have to rip half the bike apart.
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Reply #28 - 03/05/18 at 15:59:17
 
I apologize for any confusion. From what I can tell from everyone’s input I might have a bad ground from the negative side of the battery to the starter. That’s what I’ll be checking in the upcoming days, weather permitting.
Thanks for all of the help and I’ll keep everyone updated when additional information becomes available.
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Reply #29 - 03/05/18 at 17:02:10
 
Dad 0220 , the ground for the starter is the  motor case, then from the case it enters the ground wire at the bolt above the oil level glass and returns to the battery neg. post. Please! Answer one question for us. Have you seen / found the cable ( black & as large as the heavy cables you attached to the solenoid ) above the oil glass (about two inches up and two inch back in) yet? (sorry one more) If you have ,have you cleaned and tightened it to make a good connection?
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