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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #30 - 02/27/17 at 10:34:36

Dave wrote on 02/27/17 at 03:56:50:

The funny things is.....Buster has not signed back onto the forum since he started this thread!

I guess he is keeping his head low...until the bullets stop whizzing overhead!

I ordered a WIX analysis kit - Will do a VOA test and post all the good & bad results of the oil analysis.

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #31 - 02/27/17 at 11:52:58 Are you going to do a VOA or a UOA ?
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Buster Full Member Offline Motul 3000 10w40 Zinc 1407ppm Posts: 128 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #32 - 02/27/17 at 12:14:18 Papa Bear wrote on 02/27/17 at 11:52:58: Are you going to do a VOA or a UOA ? VOA first and if it looks pretty fierce, I will probably follow up with a UOA.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #33 - 02/27/17 at 12:20:32 Voa ? Uoa?
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #34 - 02/27/17 at 12:46:50 VOA - Virgin Oil Analysis UOA - Used Oil Analysis
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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1417 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #35 - 02/27/17 at 13:51:25 Hard to believe but Wally was sold out of T4 when I crossed the border last week. Luckily I have a bottle of Redline I can use with the stuff I bought. Oil and gas are loads cheaper in USA.
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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #36 - 02/27/17 at 17:05:32 gas is cheaper Stateside - oil, not so much anymore. With the exchange oil on sale here is likely cheaper
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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #37 - 03/03/17 at 13:15:10

verslagen1 wrote on 02/26/17 at 09:56:47:

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 02/26/17 at 09:37:23:

Are you saying that NO ONE can make a better oil? Nothing else can ever come along? I guess there is no such thing as progress in your world!

Collectively, we've spent more time and effort in the selection of Rot T then you've been alive. Don't disrespect that.

But if you've found some new oil that promises to make Rot T look like sand, then we're all ears. Show us the oil spec's, show us the engine tests, show us that you've spent more than 1 minute talking to the stealership guy that this is the gold standard. Other than that...

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Sorry, but just because YOU say so, doesn't cut it. My only remark is that there have been great strides in oil. Don't disrespect that!

You seem to be pretty easy at throwing insults!

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piedmontbuckeye Senior Member Offline Go Bucks! Posts: 496 Easley, SC Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #38 - 03/03/17 at 13:17:24 Ruttly wrote on 02/26/17 at 10:02:01: Peidmont , I need to prove nothing , if you think you have a better oil , you better be able to back it up. Progression has nothing to do with it , proving it does ! I am not saying for you to "prove" anything. But I doubt that you (or all of you have the final word.
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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #39 - 03/03/17 at 13:24:47

Dave wrote on 02/26/17 at 13:49:50:

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 02/26/17 at 09:37:23:

Are you saying that NO ONE can make a better oil? Nothing else can ever come along? I guess there is no such thing as progress in your world!

Better in whose opinion? The EPA....the guys who are taking out the ZDDP and ruining our cams? The guys that are adding friction modifiers and making our clutches slip?

Sometimes "new and improved" isn't the right answer for old technology.

100% agreement with your observation. There is no one alive more opposed to the EPA crap that is out there.

My only statement is that you guys seem so one sided. I suspect that there are alternatives out there that you seem to ignore.

I talked to a pretty close friend of mine - who works on the pit crew of a nationally known dragster racer. He is all about oils and what works. He knows all about ZDDP etc. etc. He mentioned two or three other oils that are at least equal to your precious Rotella.

I am not opposed to Rotella, only observing that there could be others that meet the specs you so dearly love, but haven't shown (to me at least) the evidence of it superiority over all other oils.

The one piece of evidenced was a pic of a ruined camshaft. But clearly that pic was of a camshaft that had been rusted (probably because the bike had been stored for a long time), so the wear was due to rusty, pitted cam lobes, and was NOT due to using something other than Rotella.

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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #40 - 03/03/17 at 15:13:12

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 03/03/17 at 13:15:10:

Sorry, but just because YOU say so, doesn't cut it. My only remark is that there have been great strides in oil. Don't disrespect that!

You seem to be pretty easy at throwing insults!

All I'm saying is prove it.

Papa Bear has listed a site well known to us.

Buster is doing a WIX analysis.

Pied knows a guy.

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Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil
Reply #41 - 03/03/17 at 15:20:03

Versy can throw insults he's a moderator and the rest of us just get moderated,but sticking up for Versy, there were no insults given that was just emotion , trust me you will know when you have been insulted , the most heated discussions outside of tall table are here and about oil ! Oil wars make for great entertainment, so please carry on ! Some get so butt hurt they never recover/return, please don't be one . Opinion are like a$$ holes every body's got one. We will listen please don't get bent ! Just have fun !

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Papa Bear Senior Member Offline Posts: 476 Canada ... near the Motor City Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #42 - 03/03/17 at 15:29:13 Ruttly wrote on 03/03/17 at 15:20:03: Opinion are like a$$ holes every body's got one. And if it isn't yours it stinks. Or like my friend says: "Everyone is entitled to my opinion"
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #43 - 03/03/17 at 18:44:07 piedmontbuckeye wrote on 03/03/17 at 13:15:10: You seem to be pretty easy at throwing insults! What insult?
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5112 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: Not sure if we can talk about oil Reply #44 - 03/03/17 at 19:43:42 Gosh dang I love a good oil war ! Toga , Toga , Toga ! Do I know how to stir the pot or what !
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