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Reply #75 - 08/24/14 at 14:47:00
 
Would someone PLEASE explain to me How it's possible for the cop to have suffered such injury and NOBODY says anything about it. Am I Really the only one who Sees how important That ONE fact IS?
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Reply #76 - 08/24/14 at 15:01:21
 
Jog, the news of that came out 2 or 3 days afterwards, I think it was Reuters that ran it first. Everyone knows how important that news is, but you clearly didn't read my post nor do you see reality. White America is terrified of being label racist so they ran away from that story as fast as they could. Hell  the whole "hands up, don't shoot" is false and everyone knows it, but no ones saying it.
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Reply #77 - 08/24/14 at 16:22:37
 
oldNslow wrote on 08/24/14 at 14:43:02:
raydawg wrote on 08/24/14 at 14:20:50:
Emotional pain?


Sorry, now I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Or did you just misread what I typed - I said economic harm, not emotional.

If you mean do I think causing someone emotional harm constitutes doing a wrong or immoral act, then yeah, I suppose so. But that would be pretty hard to quantify. Physical or economic injury on the other hand is pretty obvious.

In the context of Ferguson though,justifying  rioting, arson and looting as a response to getting one's feeling hurt is a bit of a stretch. Most of the folks doing that had no discernible connection to either the policeman of the young man that was shot and killed.



Yes, emotional.
We have passed laws that categorize some crime as hate.
Why?
Emotional infliction?
Can we really read a persons mind?
Why do some need a further retribution, to feel better?
Emotionalism?
Why does a society separate its citizens in such a manner?
Guilt?
Or do they think they are more fragile, need to be coddled?
Is hate bias?
Is death discriminant?      
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Reply #78 - 08/25/14 at 18:55:07
 
did anyone catch the news tonight?  
A woman was pulled over and handcuffed by police while her 4 children sat in her car. They figured out fairly quickly it was a case of mistaken id; but the saddist part for me, one of the children about 6 yrs old finally got out of the car and approached the police to find out what was happening. As he got out of the car, this child immediately raised his arms above his head as he approached the police.  What has this country become.    :'( :'( :'(  

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Reply #79 - 08/26/14 at 06:04:19
 
Someone posted it here before... to paraphrase:

"When did seeing police make you feel nervous instead of safe?"


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Reply #80 - 08/26/14 at 07:02:46
 
Easy,when I got my drivers license.. cuz I was Always deserving of a ticket.
I didn't have a pen and a phone,I had a gas pedal and a brake pedal and I was Hard On one or the other...
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Reply #81 - 08/26/14 at 16:34:30
 
Trippah wrote on 08/25/14 at 18:55:07:
did anyone catch the news tonight?  
A woman was pulled over and handcuffed by police while her 4 children sat in her car. They figured out fairly quickly it was a case of mistaken id; but the saddist part for me, one of the children about 6 yrs old finally got out of the car and approached the police to find out what was happening. As he got out of the car, this child immediately raised his arms above his head as he approached the police.  What has this country become.    :'( :'( :'(  



Read this:http://fredoneverything.net/CopNotes.shtml

Then try the experiment in the last couple of paragraphs.

Some of the things that the police in this country do make me nervous, fearful even, sometimes angry. But there is something to be said for taking a few steps in someone eles's shoes before passing judgement.

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Reply #82 - 08/26/14 at 17:01:07
 
Paraquat wrote on 08/26/14 at 06:04:19:
... "When did seeing police make you feel nervous instead of safe?" ... --Steve


Didn’t, ‘fear them’, it was more of a, “Oh S&*$ moment”

Riding a bikecycle, (After Curfew),
Throwing firecrackers off the RR tressel,
Drinking 3.2 beer and smoking cigarettes, at the Town Fair,
Skiing behind a convertible, with the top down, in Dec, on snowy roads in town.
Parking out by the lake on a deserted road, (with a girl).
Etc.

Never, Fear,    just the, ‘Oh Sh*&  moment.   But ALWAYS  Respect,
because, I was treated with Respect, So I Respected the Cop.

About 20 years ago, got a speeding ticket.
“You were going 45 in a  30 MPH zone”
( It was about 100 feet, as I came from a  45,
and turned into a office, which was in the 30.
Just didn’t slow down fast enough)
The Cop asked me:  “When was you last speeding ticket”
I said: “I don’t know, 15-18 years ago”
Then he said:  “Well it’s about time you got another one”
I told him:  “I knew you when your  Mamma wiped the S*&%  off your ass,
give me a warning”.  He said:  “Here is your ticket”.

So, 20 years ago, I stopped,  ‘Respecting’, cops.
In the last 20 years, I have gotten two speeding tickets,
and each time, I was treated like I was one of the 911 Terrorists !

LOLOL, In Minn,  a, ‘Blue’ light, working in conduction with the Break light,
as long as it is 1”, or under in Dia, is  LEAGEL.
Can you guess what I have added to my S40 ?????
Haven’t been stopped yet,  Just  Waiting    LOLOL
Can you Guess, what, then will happen !!!!!

Recently, I was in a car shop, waiting for the owner.
In to a empty Stall, pulled this ‘Cop’ car,
puts his Light and SIREN on, INSIDE THE SHOP,
gets out of his car, grabs a pop,
(which everyone else pays .50 for if they want one, it’s just a refrigerator)
didn’t pay, hops in his car, and Burns Rubber in reverse.

Couple of weeks later, I was sitting at the Counter, talking with the owner,
about repairs made to my car, when In Pulled the Same Cop,
(No Stalls were empty at this time)
He Rudely, walked behind the counter, interrupted my speaking with the owner,
acted generally like a total A88 H0l@, until he caught my eye,
He must have saw something their, because I was about to ask him:
“What do you want to be, WHEN YOU GROW UP”.
Then he left.

I have NO,  NONE WHATSOEVER, “Respect’ for ‘cops’,
UNTIL,   They, show me respect.

The, the, ‘Guide Lines’,  of ‘who’ are, cops, have changed, Drastically !

Remember,   YOU, pay, Their wages,  THEY  do not pay Yours !

Now we have  TWO  Groups, ( Brown/Cops),
Who have BOTH, been told:  “They Are Special”.
Now add to that the ‘Media’, who have ALSO been told:
“They are Special”.

Is it ANY Wonder, why the, ’TRUTH’, of what  ACTUALLY  Happened, has NOT come out  !!!!!!

You show me ‘respect, ‘ I give you, ‘respect’.
You  act  like a  A@@  H0l@,  I  Am  Going to the TOP.!


No, never, feared the cops, It went from the, “Oh Sh*$% moment”, to the,
“You speak to me with, ‘respect’, or find a different job”.

In Ferguson, (As far as the info I can get), it seems like,
the Cop was right, and Brown, was, ‘excerpting’, his, ’special privilege’,
(that he was told), was befitting him.

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Reply #83 - 08/26/14 at 21:22:51
 
This pic is "supposedly" from a face book page taggin' Brown...
and why is it no news agency has posted his criminal record?




Also.. I know yahoo isn't the best source for news but they do provide links to the news stories... here is the latest..

http://news.yahoo.com/alleged-audio-recording-may-have-captured-fatal-shootin...

It has a illustration of the body and the shot placements....
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Reply #84 - 08/27/14 at 05:18:53
 
Did anyone listen to the audio tape that surfaced? I did, sounds like a roofer working to me, but I don't know the details. How far away was the guy when it recorded? Were his windows up or down? It's pretty loud on the tape, did any of the two people mention the noise later during their conversation?
Listen to it and comment.
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Reply #85 - 08/27/14 at 07:10:04
 
The pause May have been a moment to see if the guy was gonna stop coming. The autopsy report shows that Brown was hit in one arm a number of times and a few shots were more"" center of mass" then a couple were head shots,or,so I hear. Have the"facts" stopped changing yet?
If it's true that the cops face was busted,that could account for lousy shot placement. I don't know how he was not knocked cold and able to see or do anything..
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Reply #86 - 08/27/14 at 10:50:44
 
Paraquat wrote on 08/26/14 at 06:04:19:
Someone posted it here before... to paraphrase:

"When did seeing police make you feel nervous instead of safe?"


--Steve


This is what I found on Facebook, I have no idea if the FACTS are as described or what, but if they are, they will be all over EU news tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=277273405805190

A 16-year old was caught without a ticket on a bus, jumped off and ran away from the Police - guess what, he was shot ...
...for hitching a free ride on a bus ?  Shocked   For want of a $2 bus ticket ?
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Reply #87 - 08/27/14 at 11:32:41
 
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his is what I found on Facebook, I have no idea if the FACTS are as described or what, but if they are, they will be all over EU news tonight.

http://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=277273405805190

A 16-year old was caught without a ticket on a bus, jumped off and ran away from the Police - guess what, he was shot ...
...for hitching a free ride on a bus ?  Shocked   For want of a $2 bus ticket ?


Happened a month ago. Cops said he had a gun and shot at them. That was disputed by witnesses at the scene.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/bayview-police-shooting-muni_n_90119...


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