& armored vehicles? Hollowpoints? Against the rule of war,, so, its not meant for outside the usa, right?

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/marine-corps-veteran-questions-
dhs-on-huge-ammo-buys/

Theres a link to the article, bottom of page

Its not just bullets, either. Theyre buying up armored vehicles. Theyre developing robots that can run, can be knocked over, get up & chase someone down. Of course, theyve got drones to play with, facial recognition cameras all over the streets & license plate readers that can digest hundreds & hundreds of plates an hour. Im not saying theyre about to attack the people, but, theyre darn sure ready if the people get pissed off enough to say Not NO, but Hell NO..
Should the economy actually slide into the abyss it looks ( to me, anyway) ready to fall into & the people take to the streets ( a la Greece), which I see as a When, not IF proposition, then we will see martial law, suspension of the Big C & ALL those executive orders that have been slipped thru down thru the years, where they can take your family & ship you all to different places. Take any & vehicles & fuel & food, The executive orders on the books are , of course, UN Constitutional, BUT, creeps & idiots will still enforce them.

Here is a link to just one. Of course, those who believe "Its all to protect US" wont be able to read it right. But, If anyone will just point out, where it says in plain English, the power to take control of energy supplies is meant strictly & solely to mean energy supplies owned by industry, not energy supplies held by private citizens, stored on their own land, Then Ill believe they dont mean they can come take my propane tank. & REmember, if, when YOU read the NDAA, if YOU didnt see it meant Me & You, then your opinion of what this means is greatly diminished in my eyes.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-nationa...


Why is there a Satanic ’666′ Hexagram on the 450 million hollow tip rounds ordered by the DHS?

( Insert: I have no idea about anything being ON the bullets. IF its there, Id like to know why. BUT, there, not there,, doesnt change the fact theyre ordering LOTS of bullets they Can Not use outside of the USA, fighting against enemies in a war)

   Marine Corps Veteran Questions DHS on Huge Ammo Buys!
   by Steve Watson & Paul Joseph Watson, www.Infowars.com
   A military veteran has questioned why the  Department of Homeland Security is purchasing enormous amounts of ammunition,  making it clear that he believes the bullets cannot possibly be for training  purposes.
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   Commenting on the DHS’s procurement of roughly 2 billion hollow point bullets over the course of the  last year, former Marine Richard Mason told reporters with WHPTV News in  Pennsylvania that he has serious concerns.
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   “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t  even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps,”  Mason said.
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   When questioned recently, DHS official Peggy Dixon  claimed the bullets were bought in bulk to save money and were for training  purposes only. However, hollow point bullets, are very expensive in ammunition  terms, and it is highly unusual to use such bullets for target practice.
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   “Why would they need all those hollow points,”  former marine Mason asked “why would they need all those ball rounds just for  training?”
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   Record federal government purchases have coincided  with national shortages of ammunition in gun stores, leading some  to believe that it is a deliberate tactic to deprive gun owners, or something  much worse.
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   To put the DHS’ ammunition solicitations in  perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month.  Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last  year to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.
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   Last September, the DHS also purchased no less  than 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles, labeling them “Personal  Defense Weapons.”
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   Purchases of large quantities of body armor by the DHS has also caused shortages. Last year, the agency also put out an urgent order for “riot gear” in anticipation of civil unrest. The agency has also ordered bullet-proof checkpoint booths and hired hundreds of new security guards to protect government buildings over the course of the last 12 months.
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   There is also strong evidence to suggest that the DHS has recently bought around 2,700 armored military style trucks. The agency has also cemented a $2 million dollar relationship with a contractor that recently had to apologize for producing shooting targets of pregnant women, children and elderly gun owners depicted in residential settings.
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   Coupled with continued and sustained secrecy surrounding these purchases and contracts, many Americans are convinced that  the federal government is “stockpiling” in preparation for “civil  unrest.”
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   The DHS’ primary concern is now centered around thwarting “homegrown terrorism,” but information produced and used by the DHS to train its personnel routinely equates conservative and libertarian political ideology with domestic

Once again like I said, if the gubbamint wants to take your guns, or crush you with you still holding the guns, they will.

The second amendment gives you (us the people) the right to bear arms as well as have the gubbamint not have an army in times of peace.

The second amendment nuts amongst us have been so target fixated on the first aspect while ignoring the second aspect the gubbamint has enough firepower to grind every one who dissents to pulp 10X over.

They are saying ... yea yea second amendment, we're giving it to you, here have this peashooter, on us ... and hey what's that behind you - and roll you over with a tank. And no dont pin this on Obama alone, its been going on for 100 years atleast.

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Srinath.

How do you eat an elephant?

One bite at a time.


--Steve

Midnightrider wrote on 03/14/13 at 09:40:25:


They've got enough bullets to shoot AT every person in the country 5 times. Fortunately most LEO's are lousy shots. They'd need a lot more ammo to actually HIT every person in the country 5 times - or even once !

oldNslow wrote on 03/14/13 at 06:30:46:



We have had this discussion for the last 150 years. This is like a see-saw. One period of time it goes toward control, and one side it goes to proliferation. The funny thing is for the last 100 years the gubbamint has gapped the public's arms ... 100 years ago people had guns, gubbamint had guns. Then came tanks for gubbamint, then came planes for the gubbamint, then came nuclear, chemical, bio, drones etc etc ...
Gubbamint has shredded the "checks and balances" aspect of the 2nd. The second amendment now gives you the ability to kill your neighbor, or in the rare case an intruder. BTW I know of a repo man who has been shot @ and the guy claimed to the cops he thought he was an intruder.

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Srinath.

Yes that's exactly what I said. The British were interested in pulling the guns out of the public hands. They had guns, and people having guns will have made for an equal battle. They didn't want that.

This govt of the last 40 or so years atleast does not care, they are armed 1000 times over, if not more, they dont need your guns, they would rather say they are having the second amendment fully implemented while we ignoramuses get these little guns and act all like we're the schnitz, while they gubbamint has enough power to crunch us 100 times over.

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Srinath.

Paraquat wrote on 03/15/13 at 09:15:28:


Only in a jungle with hostile terrain that the well armed side is clueless about ... and even so it creates a long running stalemate.

Lots of Indian kings in the 8-900 - 17-1800's used it against a lot of invading and eventually victorious armies. These were not externally armed guerillas.

Nothing new about it, of course the americans ran into it in vietnam but the underlying theme there was the russian support for the guerillas. Guerilla tactics are near useless in a completely internal civil war. Both sides know the terrain and one side is armed to the gills like the US army will be and the other has pistols, we'll need to start digging a huge trench, to fill the bodies of the pistol carrying dead.

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Srinath.