Well there you go then...  ...

Yup,.. that's how he won the Nobel prize...
He just looked out and said, "Seems hot"... ...

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 06/25/12 at 09:08:44:



Still not melting, not even on this page.

The ice on the poles is melting and getting smaller every year, only the blind or stupid cannot see things are changing.

"Been up to the poles to check that out yourself huh?" WM

Why yes Webster, as a matter of fact "I" have been up around the pole many times. In the 70's Thule north Greenland supply and mail runs were my specialty.  Even then global warming / climate change was a real concern for the native peoples of the far north, who depend on the solid ice cap for their winter sustenance and survival.

Believe me, it IS shrinking every year, and the native people of the north are very aware of this.

The annual over-melt has been going on for a long time now.

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The Arctic is home to some of the world's most distinctive mammals, millions of migratory and resident birds, a rich ice-edge community, and some of the world's major fisheries. It a biologically and culturally unique environment and one of the last places on Earth where natural conditions still prevail over much of the region. 1
Unlike the ice-bound Antarctic, however, the Arctic has also been home to humans for more than 10,000 years. Today the region is culturally, politically, demographically and economically diverse, with settlements ranging from small indigenous communities to modern industrial cities. 2 Indigenous cultures include Aleuts, who live primarily in coastal southwest Alaska; Inuit, who live on the coast and inland from northwestern Alaska east to Greenland; and Athabascans, who live mainly inland in eastern Alaska, the central Yukon, and the Northwest Territories of Canada; Dene, Saami, and Native groups in northern Russia.

The environment and human cultures of the Arctic are inextricably linked. 3 Indigenous populations in the region maintain a strong connection to the environment through subsistence on wildlife and natural resources, a practice that has endured over thousands of years. 4

The Arctic and its people, however, face drastic change. The global build-up of greenhouse gases has the potential to dramatically alter both the Arctic environment and its ecosystems. Given their close dependence on natural resources, global climate change is expected to have immediate and significant consequences for Arctic peoples. 5 Some species of terrestrial and marine wildlife may become threatened or even disappear. Land will grow increasingly unstable. Extreme weather events may occur, as sea levels rise along coastal areas. Arctic communities could also face serious health complications. What happens to the Arctic and its human population concerns us all, for the response of the area and its people to climate change serves as an indicator for what may occur in other regions, and to the planet as a whole.

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Now I ask you. What kind of fools do not believe in science and logic???....oh, that's right, right-wing-nuts, the religiously insane, bible thumping, fire & brimstone hell folks who handle snakes. Corporate hucksters who will give you two fives for a twenty, and tell you what a sound investment you have made to insure your future, war mongering war profiteers who tell you to invest you son in the great (fill in the blank)_________ glorious cause....meh.

Now I ask you. What kind of fools do not believe in science and logic???....

well..if you want to find one, you could start by looking in the mirror. Your environmentalism is a religion and you are a zealot. You refuse to open your mind to possibilities other than to the doom and gloom your prophets preach to you about.

By definition,.. religion requires faith, without evidence...

Climate change is supported by a wide body of collected evidence that has been accepted by 98% of scientists in the field...  hardly faith based...

On the other hand,... some people choose to believe the 2%... of which, half believe climate change is happening, but we didn't cause it... and the other half deny it is happening at all...
Conflicting theories,... but both theories are accepted with enthusiasm  by deniers...
Deniers don't care which is true.... because either supports their agenda, and neither is supported by evidence...
Belief,.. without, or in conflict, with evidence, is a religion...
Now,... who's an angry little zealot?.... ...

Rowboat said

Climate change is supported by a wide body of collected evidence that has been accepted by 98% of scientists in the field...  hardly faith based..


& some of those scientists have decided they were wrong, & you KNOW there were 98% in agreement? How? Because it was reported? In the same media that reported how the vietnamese attacked us?