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Re: Savage Scrambler Build
Reply #75 - 07/17/11 at 19:11:12

That does make sense Moto...
My original thought process was moving the shock mounts for an upright position, while increasing the distance between them (without changing the angle of the swing arm) allowing me to run longer shocks. After mocking up this thing, I don't think there will be any reason to move them, unless the ride on a rough dirt road or trail is unbearable.

MotoBuddha wrote on 07/13/11 at 06:09:37:

You mentioned changing the shocks to a more upright postion to get more travel. Actually, angled shocks provide a better swingarm movement-to-shock-stroke ratio.

With the shock vertical, the ration is 1:1. The swing arm moves up an inch, the shock compresses an inch.

Now, imagine an extreme (and useless) example where the top of the shock mounts to the swing arm pivot. The swing arm moves up an inch and the shock compresses zero inches.

Although I suck at math, I think we can see that with the shock at an angle -- like the stock position -- the shock compresses less than 1:1.

However, you can use a vertical shock and still use less of the shock travel, if you move the BOTTOM mount closer to the swing arm pivot. While the axle moves upward an inch, a point closer to the pivot moves less. However, you'd need stiffer springs in order to maintain the same effective spring rate.

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Reply #76 - 07/17/11 at 19:32:24

Got a few minutes in the garage this weekend...but didn't seem to cover much ground. Here is what I accomplished this week...

Finally got the rust out of the gas tank without it flash rusting back with Evaporust from Autozone. Stuff is unbelievable! Also primed the XS750 Yammie tank with rustoleum high temp engine block primer, sanded it and shot it with "flat Aluminum" high temp block paint. I looked all over for a flat silver paint, but this is all I could find. I'm blown away with the results! I would have been happy if I had paid a painter for these results. The pics do it very little justice. Very clean.

Refurbed the locking gas cap by stripping the chrome off, cleaning the mechanism, and shooting it and the key cylinder face with VHT high gloss black caliper paint. I've used this stuff before with great results, but it is VERY picky paint. After shooting, I baked it at 200* for 1.5 hrs in my oven (good wife)

I have a brand new yammie gasket for it too...

Lastly... you guys have seen my cobbled together RYCA rip off battery box. I finally got it all wrapped up and I'm happy with the results as well. I used 3m door edge to line the oustide edges and to act as a grommet for the hole that the wiring goes through. Then I added 2 peel and stick rubber pads I found in the furniture section at Lowes to keep the battery in place and vibe free...

All in all, I don't gues it was too bad of a weekend. I'm just getting REALLY anxious to start beating on this bike! Angry

hopefully I'll have another list for you guys later this week or next weekend!
take care
Mpnoffi

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Edgar Senior Member Offline Are you a lucky little lady in the city of light? Posts: 353 San Diego	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #77 - 07/18/11 at 02:40:09 That tank really does look sleek man. How does that evapo rust stuff work?
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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #78 - 07/18/11 at 07:06:25 slow and steady will win the race. I too am working on a build a couple hours at a time so I know how frustrating it can be. Looking really good though and keep it coming.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #79 - 07/19/11 at 05:52:10 Edgar wrote on 07/18/11 at 02:40:09: How does that evapo rust stuff work? Like this:
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #80 - 07/19/11 at 05:53:40 That's truly one of Yamaha's handsomest tanks.
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mpnoffi Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Memphis Gender:	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #81 - 07/19/11 at 19:40:30 Yeah. I think so too. This makes twice that I have used one on a project. It's handy that xs650 petcocks, caps and gaskets are a direct swap on these because they are pretty plentiful and not too spendy. 4.5 gallons too. My a$$ will quit long before I run out of fuel. This particular tank was a sweet eBay deal at 40 bucks.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #82 - 07/20/11 at 19:41:41 Heck of a steal, the last one of those I sold (immaculate new old stock) went for $350... without any add-ons. Wish I hadn't cut the mounting lugs off my frame, my 2-2.5 gallon flat tracker tank has gotten annoying. But, running out of gas the same time I run out of a$$ may not be a bad thing.
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mpnoffi Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 64 Memphis Gender:	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #83 - 07/31/11 at 15:41:42 tank on new petcocks tightened filter in-line it runs! woohoo!!!
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SoE Full Member Offline Rollin' the dice on fire... Posts: 199 East TN Gender:	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #84 - 07/31/11 at 18:30:57 More pics!
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teabowl13 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 535	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #85 - 11/02/11 at 15:14:08 Just found this thread, and I have to say, I LOVE what you are doing here. My friend Jay and I are just starting a vintage roadster Savage. haven't even gotten enough to start a thread yet, but I really like some of your ideas, and I can't wait to see how she comes out. Cheers!!
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Re: Savage Scrambler Build
Reply #86 - 11/27/11 at 19:32:28

Hey guys. This one is going up for sale on the Memphis, TN Craigslist for $1400 obo. Life happened...and a project wasn't in it for me. I just can't find the time to enjoy a major (to me) project right now along with family and work. I'm awefully close to finishing, just no time...so I bought a road/dirt ready1995 DR 350 with 3k miles to keep me on the road...and sane. Thanks for all of the interest and kind words from everyone. I sincerely appreciate it. If anyone has any questions on this build, feel free to post here or PM me!

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #87 - 11/27/11 at 20:00:55 Oh man, so tempting. Since messaging seems to be broken, email me at eldoonfeeb@gmail.com.
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teabowl13 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 535	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #88 - 11/27/11 at 20:32:20 I know all about life happening, but that does indeed make me sad. That was a truly unique idea, and I really hope that whomever buys that pile of tin from you continues in your quest and makes it into a really cool bike... Cheers! and good luck...
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Savage Scrambler Build Reply #89 - 11/28/11 at 09:32:28 How much was the evaporust & how big was the jug?
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