meck wrote on 03/12/09 at 12:28:14:Wow, I like that a lot. It's cheap and easy...
I'm currently re-packing my stock filter frame with Poly-Fil as described at
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1183640744. However, it will have virtually no resistance, so I'm concerned with running lean since I'm at sea level, have my idle screw 3 turns out and have a #155 main and going up to a #50 pilot. Would I really be able to completely ditch the metal frame filter and enrich my mix in the process?
How long have you been running it this way? How's the effect on mileage? Does the filter stay clean enough long enough, or will I be replacing the innards every other week?
Meck, I've done about 15 miles with it so far. There were a few stretches of steady rpm riding in there but most was intentional starting, stopping, hard accels and roll-ons in various gears. I'm thinking that the combo of free air + vacuum creates a better environment for pulling the gas thru the jets and then emulsifiying the mixture before it enters the cylinder. Throttle response felt improved. I think it allows the pilot jet air-correction jet to work better IMO. I don't know nearly as much about carbs as many folk on here do and I might have some of the stuff mixed up. I'm sure they will correct me soon enough!
Here's an exerpt from an article about the pilot air correction jet:
"The Pilot Circuit (also called the primary, low speed or idle circuit) consists of a brass fuel jet- called the pilot jet (in the float bowl), the pilot mixture screw (outside of, but adjacent to the float chamber), and the
pilot air-correction jet (in perimeter of the “mouth” of the carb). The Pilot circuit delivers it’s air/fuel mixture through a small hole in the floor of the carb outlet, downstream of the throttle plate. It regulates the fuel mixture at idle and small throttle openings, typically under one-quarter throttle.
The pilot air correction jet admits air to the pilot system, through a channel above the pilot jet, as a fuel/air ratio modifier and emulsion improver."
I don't know about other's pod filters but mine had a narrowing inside that appeared, when on the carb, would cause some obstruction to the pilot air correction jet circuit. It may not cover it up but the air certainly had to quickly bend 90 degrees up and again 90 degrees towards the carb. I think with the pod filter setup I had, I had some rich spots and some lean spots throught the rpm range. Some of that may have been the jetting/mixture screw setup as well. Testing yesterday seemed to show a smoothing out of these spots. I've got a #55 pilot with bleed holes. My testing included some adjustments with the idle mixture screw. With the pod filter it idled and ran best 1 full turn out. With this mod it seems to run best all the way in. I think the vacuum more efficiently pulls fuel through the pilot jet whereas with the pod filter the vacuum was less so opening it up a turn helped to compensate.
I'm not saying this is a sure fire improvement for everyone. I sure made a difference on my bike. Probably using the K&N and filter in the airbox and and desnorkeling the top probably gets you closer to this setup than the pod filter. I would love for a few others out there to try it and see how it works for there bikes. This setup like I've got pictured is pretty sensitive to the material used for filtering. The material has to be as free flowing as possible due to the narrow inlet area to get the true benefit. I've tried several things and the best two so far have been 4 washed and dried dryer sheets (the little square ones you throw in the dryer with the wet clothes), and a piece of filter from an indoor HVAC filter rated at 700 (long explanation on the rating). as far as how long it stays clean? I don't know. I do know the I live on a long gravel road that gets very dusty. I've had my pod filter on since October. I cut it open and removed the material last night. It looked amazingly clean to me. I guess if I have to screw on a new 10 cent cloth once every 3-4 months it will be worth it to me.
BTW, here's the whole carb article. It's a great read.
http://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/56/96/