Is it 10-40 or 20-40?  You have listed both in your previous posts.  In either case, be prepared to change the oil several more times before you resolve this demon:  as others have noted, gas backing into the airbox also likely means gas seeping into the intake, which means gas in the oil (which, speaking from experience, is a bad thing that causes bad things....).  Hence, I would recommend changing the oil frequently so long as you continue to have problems with fuel leakage.

Even 20-40 will drain very slowly when cold, but simply give it time and let it run out as much as it will allow.  It may not completely empty the crankcase (it certainly won't, in fact, due to the temperature), but you'll drain most of the fouled oil as well as any gas that may be in suspension even with the bike cold.  Once you get it running again, change the oil again as soon as possible.

Good luck!
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HDI_IA wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:


First off pat your self on the back you've encountered a pretty ugly problem and are dealing with it before it can cause serious damage to the top end  

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I sure would maybe even twice on the oil after a few minutes of running

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If the carb was overflowing without the bike running and the petc0ck set to on/res it would be the diaphram inaddition to the float. A good test for this side is to pull the carb drain plug and once it drains if gas continues to drip out with w/petc0ck set to on/res than the fuel side is flaky - on the vacuum side if you have any gas in the line going to the petc0ck or like I did - no jokes from the peanut gallery - I pull a vacuum on the line and got a pretty good taste of gasoline - so I replaced it - also the new one would hold suction well enough for the line to stick to your tongue.

So far as I know the diaphram is not sold seperate and the petc0ck runs about $50 from crotchrocket.com  

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and a Merry Christmas to you!

Reelthing thanks for the information

Well I am a bit farther ahead now. Thank goodness my Father's savage has a tank that is easily removed cause I have had it off half a dozen times already in the last day

I really believe we were very lucky as when I emptied the oil I found that there was nearly 5 quarts of liquid in there. If I would have lit a match I would have been up in flames

Anyway the carb was removed, boiled and rebuilt....It was very dirty inside with lots of grit and other stuff in it. Now it looks brand new I also finally got to see that it has a 155 jet inside.

Once I got everything done and back I was able to prime the carb and then get it started in the 'on' position. Started right up and ran fine without pouring fuel into the air box again (had the cover off and the filter out to observe).

But I still have one problem and that is if I switch over to 'reserve' it starts up with the fuel leakage again.

At this point I am thinking I need to test the petcock. I just read Steve530's response about using a vacuum pump and gauge to test this. I have a mityvac pump that has the dial gauge on it so when I get back up (it's after 4:30am here right now) I will give it a try and see how that goes.

I know some people might get discouraged doing these kind of things, but since my Mothers passing last year this has given my Father and I some serious time to bond, so sometimes problems can turn into blessings

Anyway once again I want to thank both you Reelthing and Steve530 for the information and idea's.

Steve530 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:12:

Thanks very much for the kind words. I am very much enjoying this time making his favorite ride happy again

Well once again thanks for the advice on using a vacuum pump on the petcock. Sure enough the petcock is fine and I just had a little bit more tinkering to do with the carb and all is well now!

I have changed the oil twice and will ride it for a bit before I do the final oil change to get it back on schedule. I still have some adjustments to go with the carb, but other then that it is looking good!

The oil plug/cap mod appears to be holding well. The new supertrapp pipe I put on for him sounds wonderful and is performing very well. The superbrace I put on the front appears to have brought a ton of stability to the front end and the Metzler ME880's I put on it a short while back grip the ground like I expected them to do.

I still need to drain the forks and refill with fresh fork oil. We will ride it for a bit and see if he wants to go with the Progressive shocks. And I will remount his saddle bags in the next couple days once I have the brackets made.

If I keep going he will have most of the same mod's that I performed on my Intruder vs800.  

Now it's time to ride my friends...so once again thanks to both you, Steve530, and to you Reelthing for your assistance (and thanks to all those others that have posted information in the past, but is being used in the present ). Thanks so very much and Merry Christmas to ALL! 8)