I've got a glass pack that I will be putting on there shortly.  I also have a big thumbscrew to put in the end so I can get some back pressure.  Not so sure how loud it's gonna be.  Will keep folks posted when I get around to it..

K

i really hate to bicker with you about this as 1) i appreciate your efforts in having this place here. 2) although i'm stubborn you do make a good point.
however this is a discussion board after all and i like to discuss things  

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Isn't that the point. Most people here are beginners, just like the guys in a high school shop class. We all dont have years and years of experience or loads of money. I do pretty well and make a decent living i also spend alot and i'm sure i could manage and spend more on my bike however the $150 i spend on my cellphones for me and my wife considering i dont own a home phone is definetly not going to be not paid for a month not to mention cancel fees and reinstatement fees etc   or what was it eat at mickey Ds i dont see how that is going to make a difference. anyway people are experimenting because they are beginners they are trieng new things and playing around and sure they might mess it up and it might look like a high school shop project but the high school shop kids were starting out and weren't going to build the most high tech out there on the first try i'm sure some of those kids learned alot and now are some of the people who make amazing things as you mentioned earlier the OCC i'm sure when they started they did little rinky dinky things. and little half a$$ mods. i agree with you, they are half a$$ but thats the point we are learning and with experience we will be able to make or do better nicer things. Take the seat mod for example what kinda rinky dink thing was that a $7 fix for numb butt. but hey we are learning and it works great. But i guess in your opinion everyone should turn of their cellphones and eat mcdonalds and buy a $400 seat cus the $7 fix is half a$$ ?

I don't trade my bikes -- I ride them into the ground.  My DT175 was so ratty after 12 years that I could go into the resturant and leave the key sitting in the ignition.

Some of us cannot afford to simply go out and buy what we want -- especially something like a $285 exhaust system.  But we can manage to set aside $30 for a small standard automotive glasspack muffler.  You find a tailpipe that will slide into the muffler.  You have it inserted minimally for maximum muffling.  You insert it further to block off the perforations, effectively shortening the length of the muffler, to make the exhaust louder -- it becomes tunable for loudness.  Since the motorcycle requires some back pressure for maximum low end torque you can weld a fender washer to a screw mounted inside the tailpipe to make an adjustable butterfly valve -- open for minimal back pressure, partially closed for whatever back pressure produces the best power.  The muffler is now tuneable for both peak torque and desired loudness.  As far as I know this is not available over the counter for $50.

The Savages I see on E-Bay are mostly stock with a few with an engineered for the bike aftermarket accessories.

While some people may consider the Savage a "beginner's bike" knowledgable people realize that the Savage is an excelent choice for an experienced rider who does not have a need to try to impress others.

High School Shop Classes do extremely GOOD work as they are graded on it.  My eldest had her car repaired by a shop class and they did an excelent job.

The nice thing about the Savage, and motorcycles in general, is that you can still have a bike that reflects YOU.   You can have a rich man's toy, or someone's sole means of reliable transportation.

So what we are saying is that all this experimentation, tinkering, and modifying of our Savages by beginning riders is kinda like buying a Hyundai and hanging fringe and dingle balls around the windows when what we really want is window tinting?

So, there really IS a reason that most used Savages for sale look like crap.  Got it.

mikedasavage wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:


My comment about the phone doesn't really involve using lots of excess minutes with all those important calls that people have while boring eveyone else in a check out line....

What I meant, is this....while everyone is talking about being poor, broke, not enough money, etc.  People will probably buy a cell phone that costs as much as a proper exhaust for their bike simply because it has some new bell or whistle.  Right?  Gotta have a phone that is only 199.99 with a built in camera, but when they go to customize their bike, they can't afford over $35.

And what really takes it to a higher level, is they know the phone will be obsolete in a year and since they may have to renew a contract anyway, they'll probably just buy a new one.  Much more important than a muffler that will last 15-20 years?

It's all a matter of priorities....people either have the money, can save the money, or know how to get the money, and they can afford a new exhaust without filing for bankruptcy, selling their children or pimping their spouse.  

I guess that I don't understand...

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:

I have to agree on all counts.  I envy the quality and performance of the Raask and prefer the sound of the MAC.  However, I still don't have the sound I want.  Maybe I never will.  If I exhaust (pun intended) all reasonable resources in the quest, I'll likely defer to the quality and performance of the Raask.

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:
I don't understand.   What is humorous about a Rat Bike?  A Rat is a bike which does not waste money on being 'pretty'.  The rider of a Rat says he has no need to try to impress anyone.  If anything breaks it is replaced with whatever fits, is cheap, and works.

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:07:


In my case, yes: http://hellrisercustoms.com/vroom1776

It does look like cr*p.  We had a yard sale and the savage was out front.  I had quite a few offers for it (people thought I'd accidentally put an extra zero on there (the sign said $20,000)) and that was with the above paint job.


mmmm... ratbike

Frankly, that is a d@mned "nice" rat.