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Title: LOUD Post by lcs151 on 07/21/05 at 13:37:19 How to get my bike any louder... I have a screamin eagle pipe, k and n filter and rejetted the carb. any other ideas to get it louder? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/21/05 at 15:34:04 When I get a round tuit I plan on replacing my stock muffler with a large glasspack; with a trombone tailpipe. Will be able to quickly vary the sound from full muffle to straight pipe. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Durandal on 07/21/05 at 16:43:57 Louder? Hell, you may as well quit fooling around with mufflers and go right to an open pipe. ;D That'll scare the bejeezus out of anyone you happen to sneak up on. Probably do a good job pissing off the neighbors, too. Any chance the cops would hassle you for running a straight pipe? I know a couple of townships near me like their cops to enforce the noise ordinances rather strictly. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 06:06:06 There is only one word. Raask. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/Pipe1.jpg |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by lcs151 on 07/22/05 at 06:26:07 how much for those? i couldnt find a price on the site. loud? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 06:35:06 There is a special procedure for this purchase....you simply need to contact a man named Sivert Raask at that web site with your question. There is a contact link, and don't worry, they understand English perfectly and treat you very well. It is not well known but you can get this pipe factory direct and save a good deal of money. All in all, you can get the pipe shipped directly to your door in about a week for around $285. Just send them an email and if you have any questions, I'll be glad to help. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by lcs151 on 07/22/05 at 07:23:40 thanks a bunch greg. unfortunately that is way out of my price range :( perhaps i will play around with straight pipes as well. the screamin eagle i have is awesome, but im curious what a straight pipe will sound like. i have one, just have never put it on. any other suggestions to make it louder without changing pipes? or is that about it? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by gandalph40 on 07/22/05 at 07:46:17 Have you removed the baffle from your SE? The thing in my SE that is supposed to pass for a baffle is pretty dang small...but, if I removed it, it would be a straight pipe. I went on a short ride on Wednesday (National Ride to Work Day) with about 12 other folks, including 2 1500cc Harleys with straight pipes. My "little" Savage sounded just as good as the big HDs...it was the first time I had ridden with these folks (10 guys, 2 ladies) and I think a LOT of them were surprised at my little dog's big bark... ;D I like loud... Tom |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by slavy on 07/22/05 at 07:59:38 If You want LOUD AND NASTY , I'll send You a gutted original exhaust for $5 + whatever the shipping is. But I can not promise You , that You will be Your neigbour's favorite. ;) |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by magistermatt on 07/22/05 at 08:21:47 I've never quite understood the preoccupation with loudness on bikes. I just switched to a stock sporty muffler on my savage from a Jardine because I felt the Jardine was too loud. I did this for a few reasons. First the Jardine was actually hurting my right ear. If I didn't wear earplugs (even for a 15 minute ride) my ear would be ringing for a few hours afterwards. Second I commute on my bike and leave early in the morning. Seeing as I try to treat people the same way I would like to treated I also felt that the Jardine was a little loud for my neighbors sake. I also live on a scenic ocean-side twisty road which happens to be a well travelled favorite of every motorcyclist in the area. While it is very nice to hear the bikes go by all too often one will go by that wakes me up in the middle of the night out of a dead sleep. Just 1/2 cent on it all. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by mikedasavage on 07/22/05 at 08:27:37 there is a saying Loud Pipes Save Lives. they might not see you but they will hear you. But i have to admit i dont really do it because of that. most people dont even here EMS or Police Vehicles, they prolly still wont hear you. but i love it when she screams. ;D |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by mornhm on 07/22/05 at 08:32:16 Quote:
Maybe there should be a corollary to the first saying. "If they don't see you because they're looking around to find out where the noise is coming from they're gonna run over you" ;) |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by mikedasavage on 07/22/05 at 08:34:07 hahahah LOL yea i'm always worried when i scare people (not on purpose of course) that they are gonna swerve right into me out of the scare. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by WD on 07/22/05 at 08:35:31 Yeah, there IS such a thing as too loud. As an expiriment, I replaced the stock muffler with a piece of chain link fence post. Started the bike in an aluminum mill I used to work at in Mississippi. Everyone left the building because they thought the extrusion line ovens were getting ready to explode. ;) The Raask is downright affordable compared to the 2 MAC systems I have at work. Box says $99.95... I rechecked the price on the blacked out system for a customer...$333.95. I'll NEVER be able to sell those 2 systems now... :'( -WD |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 09:51:30 lcs151 wrote:
Just to clarify.... It might seem expensive but if you want the "real deal" the Raask is it..... What makes it better from a performance stand point? The inner diameter of the pipe is the answer. It is over 1/4" larger than the stock double walled header pipe. You do not have the same restriction and the flow is improved. What makes it better from a quality point of view? The chrome plating is the answer. It is far better than the quality of the stock header pipe. Nice "deep" looking chrome. What makes it better from an appearance point of view? No muffler clamp. No big bulky heat shield. I have had mine for 2 years and the header area is still as bright as new. No yellowing or color at all which is due to the improved flow which allows better cooling. Sure it costs more than your other options, but it depends on what you want. When you hang out in these forums as long as I have, and you continuously read about leaking clamps and gaskets, blueing pipes, drilling baffles, changing disks, and on and on and on..... I had a SuperTrapp, and I decided that I didn't want to fart around with it anymore. Besides, the whole thing only weighs 7 pounds.... http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/04GMDEngine01web.jpg |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by vroom1776 on 07/22/05 at 10:53:16 I've got a glass pack that I will be putting on there shortly. I also have a big thumbscrew to put in the end so I can get some back pressure. Not so sure how loud it's gonna be. Will keep folks posted when I get around to it.. K |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 11:08:30 vroom1776 wrote:
A glass pack and thumb screw? Have we been shopping at Walmart again? Look, I'm not trying to be an a$$, but I gotta say what I think. Some of the mods that I read about in this forum are beginning to explain why almost all the Savages on eBay look like crap. People screw them up, and when it's useless as a trade for another bike, they hope to sell them online where no one can really see them. I know that the Savage is inexpensive and normally considered a beginner's bike, but do people really want them to look like a project in a high school shop class? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by mikedasavage on 07/22/05 at 11:53:55 i really hate to bicker with you about this as 1) i appreciate your efforts in having this place here. 2) although i'm stubborn you do make a good point. however this is a discussion board after all and i like to discuss things ;D so here goes Quote:
Isn't that the point. Most people here are beginners, just like the guys in a high school shop class. We all dont have years and years of experience or loads of money. I do pretty well and make a decent living i also spend alot and i'm sure i could manage and spend more on my bike however the $150 i spend on my cellphones for me and my wife considering i dont own a home phone is definetly not going to be not paid for a month not to mention cancel fees and reinstatement fees etc ;D or what was it eat at mickey Ds i dont see how that is going to make a difference. anyway people are experimenting because they are beginners they are trieng new things and playing around and sure they might mess it up and it might look like a high school shop project but the high school shop kids were starting out and weren't going to build the most high tech out there on the first try i'm sure some of those kids learned alot and now are some of the people who make amazing things as you mentioned earlier the OCC i'm sure when they started they did little rinky dinky things. and little half a$$ mods. i agree with you, they are half a$$ but thats the point we are learning and with experience we will be able to make or do better nicer things. Take the seat mod for example what kinda rinky dink thing was that a $7 fix for numb butt. but hey we are learning and it works great. But i guess in your opinion everyone should turn of their cellphones and eat mcdonalds and buy a $400 seat cus the $7 fix is half a$$ ? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/22/05 at 12:00:26 I have to say that I tried out a shorty glass pack from JCW on mine for a few weeks and it worked surprisingly well. It's just the quality of the chrome that is lacking. Personally, I am experimenting to get the sound I want from mine. I may wind up eventually using the Raask for the reasons Greg outlined earlier but I am really trying to get a deeper sound and less of the brrraaap quality (if that makes sense). So far, I am still using my MAC but will also experiment with a Sporster muffler still looking for the sound I'd like. Maybe I won't find it. I don't know yet. In truth, the glass pack had the overall best sound of those I've tried so far. But that's my goal - a deeper and richer sound... Certainly not louder; the MAC is loud enough. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/22/05 at 12:05:16 I don't trade my bikes -- I ride them into the ground. My DT175 was so ratty after 12 years that I could go into the resturant and leave the key sitting in the ignition. Some of us cannot afford to simply go out and buy what we want -- especially something like a $285 exhaust system. But we can manage to set aside $30 for a small standard automotive glasspack muffler. You find a tailpipe that will slide into the muffler. You have it inserted minimally for maximum muffling. You insert it further to block off the perforations, effectively shortening the length of the muffler, to make the exhaust louder -- it becomes tunable for loudness. Since the motorcycle requires some back pressure for maximum low end torque you can weld a fender washer to a screw mounted inside the tailpipe to make an adjustable butterfly valve -- open for minimal back pressure, partially closed for whatever back pressure produces the best power. The muffler is now tuneable for both peak torque and desired loudness. As far as I know this is not available over the counter for $50. The Savages I see on E-Bay are mostly stock with a few with an engineered for the bike aftermarket accessories. While some people may consider the Savage a "beginner's bike" knowledgable people realize that the Savage is an excelent choice for an experienced rider who does not have a need to try to impress others. High School Shop Classes do extremely GOOD work as they are graded on it. My eldest had her car repaired by a shop class and they did an excelent job. The nice thing about the Savage, and motorcycles in general, is that you can still have a bike that reflects YOU. You can have a rich man's toy, or someone's sole means of reliable transportation. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 12:28:44 Paladin wrote:
Maybe my popularity is in a downward spiral today, but I've had moments of diminished popularity before and I eventually managed to kiss my way back up. However, I'm not puckering yet... I suppose that I was being slightly unfair with this comparison. What I meant to say was an Unsupervised High School Shop class. Sorry. You are right, and my comparison with Bill Cosby's "Bullet in the Furnace" routine is inappropriate. If they are being graded and they really do care then the students will most likely be more inclined towards a job well done. What's the real difference? The students are listening to someone else before they pick up a hammer and start beating on something. And if it involves money, then dear old mom and dad at home are doing the funding.... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 12:38:25 So what we are saying is that all this experimentation, tinkering, and modifying of our Savages by beginning riders is kinda like buying a Hyundai and hanging fringe and dingle balls around the windows when what we really want is window tinting? So, there really IS a reason that most used Savages for sale look like crap. Got it. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 12:46:58 Paladin wrote:
I almost missed this.... If that is what you really want to say about the Savage, then considering some of the "mods" I'm reading about....well, what does that mean? What does this bike reflect about the rider? Definitely a sense of humor....:) http://ratbike.org/photos/show05/00_drdeath2.jpg |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 13:09:27 mikedasavage wrote:
My comment about the phone doesn't really involve using lots of excess minutes with all those important calls that people have while boring eveyone else in a check out line....:) What I meant, is this....while everyone is talking about being poor, broke, not enough money, etc. People will probably buy a cell phone that costs as much as a proper exhaust for their bike simply because it has some new bell or whistle. Right? Gotta have a phone that is only 199.99 with a built in camera, but when they go to customize their bike, they can't afford over $35. And what really takes it to a higher level, is they know the phone will be obsolete in a year and since they may have to renew a contract anyway, they'll probably just buy a new one. Much more important than a muffler that will last 15-20 years? It's all a matter of priorities....people either have the money, can save the money, or know how to get the money, and they can afford a new exhaust without filing for bankruptcy, selling their children or pimping their spouse. I guess that I don't understand... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 13:32:30 Savage_Rob wrote:
Maybe it is my hearing but I thought your Mac sounded very much like the Trapp. In truth, I like the sound of the Trapp and Mac better than my Raask...for the reason you mentioned. They have a really nice thumper tone. It is the performance and "fit and finsih" of the Raask that is unsurpassed by any of them. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/22/05 at 13:40:20 Greg_650 wrote:
I have to agree on all counts. I envy the quality and performance of the Raask and prefer the sound of the MAC. However, I still don't have the sound I want. Maybe I never will. If I exhaust (pun intended) all reasonable resources in the quest, I'll likely defer to the quality and performance of the Raask. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/22/05 at 13:51:49 Savage_Rob wrote:
You know....the engine has the same displacement, same intake and exhaust, the same valves, and the same cam timing. There are probably only so many variations possible for getting different sound. How about making it ultra quiet without the pops and backfires and with tons of performance too? That would be different. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/22/05 at 15:42:24 Greg_650 wrote:
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/22/05 at 15:53:02 Savage_Rob wrote:
The sound I want I had on my '67 Spitfire. The mufflers needed replacing so I took it to the local muffler shop and had a 36" glasspack replace the muffler and a 12" glasspack replace the resonator. 48" of straight thru muffler on a 1300cc 4-cylinder mill. The sound was low in pitch, low in volume, very very mellow. I figure a 36" glasspack on the Savage will be quite quiet. With the option of sliding a trombone in to reduce that to 12" or so if I wish to join Harleys on a group ride. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by vroom1776 on 07/22/05 at 16:18:05 Greg_650 wrote:
In my case, yes: http://hellrisercustoms.com/vroom1776 It does look like cr*p. We had a yard sale and the savage was out front. I had quite a few offers for it (people thought I'd accidentally put an extra zero on there (the sign said $20,000)) and that was with the above paint job. mmmm... ratbike Frankly, that is a d@mned "nice" rat. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/22/05 at 16:20:28 Greg_650 wrote:
That his/her @ss is seriously sore? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/22/05 at 16:24:06 Greg_650 wrote:
I have yet to pay for any of my cell phones. And I only pay $10/month for three of the four phones (Cingular Family Plan.) It is a matter of priority. Sure, I could spend an extra $200 on a high quality chromed muffler/pipe. Or I budget that $200 toward a school trip, or a cello for #2 daughter, or a trumpet for #3 daughter, or something else that is more important to me than a shiny bike with a shiny muffler. Most of us are on limited budgets, some more limited than others. We have just so much money that we can budget toward non-necessities. Chrome is not a necessity. Nor is a clean bike. Or a bike with matching paint. Or a bike with a new saddle in lieu of duct tape. The muffler replacement itself is not a necessity, the stock muffler works quite well. I would like a different sound, but I cannot justify it as a necessity and thus the muffler has to come out of the far smaller mad money pocket rather than the larger necessary expense pocket. And it has to compete for that limited amount of money with other wants such as a new digital camera, DVD recorder, VW floorpans, etc.. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by vroom1776 on 07/22/05 at 16:29:01 Basically, it's cheap easy & fun. As long as I don't mess anything up, I can always put my stock muffler back on... or run an open header ;) ...and probably burn up my valves... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by mikedasavage on 07/22/05 at 17:17:20 Paladin, i wish i could have said it better, Awesome way with words and making a point. You ROCK. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by klx650sm2002 on 07/23/05 at 03:36:33 I've fitted a 18" glasspack to KLX and it allows me to sneak about quietly at 1/4 throttle or break windows at full throttle. Clive W :D |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 06:09:27 Paladin wrote:
Oh I must disagree with that. I have met a few owners of rat bikes at rallies, etc. They most definitely have a sense of humor. However, I believe that you also supported my point with "whatever fits, is cheap, and works". |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 06:19:30 vroom1776 wrote:
Well, actually this one never even went to school. More likely the product of a fine Pilsner and little wacky weed 8) http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/Poop4brains.jpg |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by WD on 07/23/05 at 06:32:09 Even when I was pulling in $100 an hour with my shop, I rode rat/roach bikes. My customers trailered butt jewelry. I changed the Savage livery (color) because I was bored, NOT because it "needed" it. As far as I'm concerned, a bike is either a tool, or a toy. My tools are crusty, even my welder, but they all work fine. Nobody asks to borrow my tools, my trucks, my bikes, or my guns (my gold inlaid Winchester is rusty, with a cracked stock and broken sight...works fine). It ain't easy being fat and greasy. -WD |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 06:54:04 Paladin wrote:
Yes, and considering your age (close to mine), I am not surpirsed by your answer. You have priorities that do not place expensive motorcycle parts at the top of the list. They are displaced by DVD players, etc. On the other hand, this is where the simularity ends, as I just turned off our cell phones (Cingular sucks) and I have an inoperable DVD player that needs repair. My opinion is gained more from a couple young adults (no longer dependents) in our family that cannot live without their first priority, a cell phone. So, in your case, "I DON'T GET IT" applies to my Raask pipe, and I can accept that. Especially, since your stock bike (the same as mine) is not modified in a strange, ugly and hacked manner. That is what I don't get. And your point was? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/23/05 at 06:58:48 Paladin, some of your earlier comments echo thoughts that I've been pondering lately ... namely the whole necessities vs luxuries vs family budget dilema ... First off, let me say that generally I am not a "materialistic" person by nature ... yes I live in the burbs and have a reasonably comfortable lower-middle class lifestyle, but I don't aspire to have all the latest widgets ... my LS650 is a toy ... one that I enjoy to be sure, but it is an expense that I do have to budget for ... it is my only real extravgence. It seems that the burbs are the burbs no matter where they are ... too many of my neighbours are into "instant gratification" like the average 12-year old ... spending their hard-earned just for the sake of spending and accumulating more & more "stuff" ... I personally don't see the point of that lifestyle anymore ... and the cumulative affect that a "consumer driven" lifestyle is having on the planets finite natural resources is potentially disasterous ... I expressed these thoughts recently at a neighbourhood gathering where a few people were "going on" about their latest widget purchase, and the reaction I got was the same as if I had spouted some obsure passage from the Communist Manifesto ... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 07:03:07 WD wrote:
WD, that's fine too. You have every right to be that way. However, considering all of those things, plus your statement that you are "Improving" my Savage since the day I got 'er,...", it has been quite apparent for a long time that you don't get it, either. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 07:26:36 PerrydaSavage wrote:
Ah Perry, somehow I managed to rattle your cage too :) My point is not about having to purchase every little widgit or technical goodie that hits the market. To be like the Jones' and have the biggest, baddest and best, first. I don't even have some of the fancy expensive saddle bags and bike accessories that even some of my critics possess. On the contrary, here I sit in a rented apartment because I have had some rough and stressful times...due, in large part, to my own mistakes and folly. On the contrary, I do not have a lot of money, have to budget my resources and therefore have to have priorities too. My point, concerning my lifelong love for motorcycles, the subject of this forum, and making modifications to both, is that if you are going to do anything to the Savage, then why not do it right? To be cliche, what I don't get is the "Just Do It" attitude. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/23/05 at 09:49:35 Greg_650 wrote:
Not DVD player, recorder. For the computers. And not for me, but for the family. While we're about the same age, I did not marry and start my family until I was 40. I have two teenage daughters still living in the house and a wife who recently turned 40. When spending the mad money on non-essentials I can buy stuff for me alone or I can buy stuff that the whole family will use and enjoy. The Cell Phones are a necessity. Teenage girls and their parents, in ."Los Angeles especially, should be able to reach each other anytime anywhere. Quote:
This is the part that irks me. You pass judgement upon other people's tastes by calling what they do "strange, ugly and hacked" Strange, maybe. Hacked, maybe. But not ugly. Ugly is a matter of taste. By calling other peoples' choices ugly you are disrespecting them. My point is that what people are doing to their Savages is not ugly. Not everyone shares your tastes in what is considered to be beautiful. I personally think that a naturally evolved Rat bike is one of the most beautiful vehicles existant. Eventually my Savage will evolve into a beautiful rat. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 10:04:08 Paladin wrote:
Of course, but maybe you misunderstood my point... I'm not really so critical of all the mods, I see. I do think that a cute little bunny rabbit to replace my stock Savage logo will be an absolute must in the future. My only hesitation is to whether it is compatible with the Color Rite clearcoat ::) BTW - to me, toilet paper is a necessity, and considering those chatting on a cell phone in the check out line....they got the phone on the wrong end. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/23/05 at 10:10:28 Greg_650 wrote:
They are doing it RIGHT! Right for them. If you sent me a Raask for free I would NOT put it on my bike. It is not at all right for me. I want mellow, not loud and raspy. lcs151 is looking for loud and cheap. A straight pipe with a inserted baffle will work. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by lancer on 07/23/05 at 10:11:51 NOW, NOW, kids.....let's play nice with everyone. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/23/05 at 10:13:19 Spoilsport! |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 10:31:04 Paladin wrote:
I have a baffle installed (inserted sounds strange) ::) Ya know...I bet that we have differences every 4 years in November, too. 8) |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Mr 650 on 07/23/05 at 13:40:22 Yo! Good advise is given here freely, based on previous experience. Feel free to re-prove it at your own expense. If I had it to do over again I would consider the Rassk pipe for all the reasons Greg listed. Priced good chrome work lately?? I like the fact I can add/remove discs AND use the open or closed ends on the 'Trapp. For long trips I can make it quiet and loud for bike night. BTW; does someone make a baffle or insert for Rassk? Speakin’ of phones, I carried a cheapo Walmart Tracfone in my riding jacket, "just in case" (I was surprised and pleased to find it worked great in Ontario too). Now I got (on ebay)a really cool i605 Motorola since the folks at my current project said they would put me on their Nextel if I got a phone. I hated the phone issued on the last job, but it was tough-as-nails, "Mil spec", Motorola, dropped to the plant floor several times once from screen guard from 16'. I liked that. The i605 has a bunch of stuff i won't ever use, need or want, But it had the largest, brightest screen, "Mil spec ."and it has GPS! If you read the fine print Nextel will always place a 911 call. So even after the job is done and they shut off my account, forget internet access, text messages or stock quotes, I can still place a 911 call and it can send the exact location too, Good insurance. For instance; Greg you drove through the last ice storm in these parts last year. One night some poor nurse slid off the INTERSTATE and called for help & gave her location as "somewhere between Jackson and Memphis. The EMTs ran up and down the highway and figured she motored on. NOT! She was now unconscious and a second search was not called until she was reported missing & matched the same vehicle! She was found STILL ALIVE some days later still trapped in her car (dead cell phone) that slid across the ice, well into the weeds, obscured way down a hill and crashed! The ice left no tracks! |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 19:40:55 Mr 650 wrote:
I think that I speak from experience. Some feel otherwise. Anyway.... SuperTrapps are great slip-ons. No doubt. A cell phone is great for riding and travel. I am just tired of everyone else's phone and the dependence we have. What would we do without it? Might be good to think about in this uncertain future. Was that accident in the news? I think that I remember. Once again, a cell phone has its advantages....and its disadvantages. Good to hear from you again Mr 650 :D |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/23/05 at 20:46:10 Oh yes, I forgot. I have a baffle for the Raask. When I bought the pipe, Sivert Raask told me that the (then) baffle was just experimental, but I bought it for $25 anyway because I had to pay for the shipping for the pipe as it was...why do it twice, right? The baffle does reduce the noise. It doesn't really affect performance, but it gives the pipe a tone that I don't like as well without it....not just an issue of volume, but tone. It's the low end sound that I don't like. I am running it now, but using their design idea I plan to build another baffle for myself in the not too distant future. The Raask is pricey, but so is a Cobra setup....ever priced them? It depends on what you want.... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/23/05 at 21:32:58 I speak from a highly biased point of view -- I have been in communications for nearly 40 years. The history of the world and the advancement of civilization is a history of the advancements in communications. We still celebrate the Marathon. That sprung from a 26 mile run of a courier -- the speed of communications was the speed of a fast runner. The Roman Empire was possible because of the Roman roads that carried rapid communications. The printing pressed allowed widespread communcation of complex ideas. Railroads allowed rapid transport of mail. The telegraph gave us instant long distant commincations. The telephone gave instant long distant communications to the masses. The cell phone freed us from the wires and allows personal communication anytime, anywhere. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/24/05 at 04:37:26 Quote:
Nahhh Greg ... ya didn't rattle my cage old buddy ... I was just musing out loud ... have an irritating (according to my wife anyways ...) tendency to do that from time-to-time. Wife ays that I "think too much" ... Anyhoo, I apologise for gettin' off on a tangent! |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/24/05 at 06:39:49 Paladin wrote:
....and then ignorant people, lacking a brain capable of free thought were allowed unlimited minutes at an affordable price, and viola, people don't even take a $hit in a public restroom without talking to someone.... Ya know, never once did I say anything negative about "communications" or even the innocent cellular telephone per say. I only commented on their use. Personal communication? People don't even have personal thought. What's your point? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/24/05 at 07:59:28 Paladin wrote:
I work in telecom as well and when it comes to evolution/advancement, we can be just as stunted as the next part of human culture. Take a cellsite as an example. You'll find two voltages powering nearly all of the gear there. They run on either 24VDC or 48VDC. The telephony gear uses 48V because Bell used 48V and we never got over it. The radio gear uses 24V because Marconi used 24V and we never got over it. On the point of the Romans, I believe the aqueducts played a significant role in that empire also but I'd have to agree with you on the whole. It's my personal belief that if they'd had communications speed even on par with the telegraph, we might all be living under that empire now. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/24/05 at 08:03:44 But wait! We forgot the REAL reason for civilization! Beer! Humans were nomadic hunter/gatherers until someone happened upon a puddle of fermented water and grain a few times and figured out what the components were. Then it was a matter of experimentation to get results purposefully instead of accidentally. This led to the need to grow crops and an agrarian society, which formed larger villages and later cities which, in turn, necessitated the development of enhanced communications. We owe it all to beer! |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/24/05 at 08:51:51 It is a little known fact that all medevial castles had breweries. The purpose of the castle was to protect the brewery. Thus proving that beer is the keystone of civilization. That we cannot get a decent Bitter in the U.S. is a subject we will have to ignore. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/24/05 at 11:14:47 Beer? We finally found a common ground. Is it beer thirty, yet? |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/24/05 at 11:19:29 8)Havin' a Heineken right NOW!! Beer ... it's not just for breakfast anymore! Life without beer just wouldn't be worth living ... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/24/05 at 11:26:11 What's that song? It's 5:00 somewhere... 8) |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/24/05 at 11:28:13 Actually Greg it's 3:58pm here in Newfoundland right now! You must be on-line now as well?!! |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/24/05 at 11:31:23 PerrydaSavage wrote:
Yes, I are.... Whoa. How does that work out time zone wise? It is 11:30 here. Are you 4 1/2 zones to the east ??? 3:30 would be 4 zones. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by PerrydaSavage on 07/24/05 at 11:34:14 Hi Greg ... yup Newfoundland is 4 1/2 hours ahead of Pacific Time (1 1/2 hours ahead of EST and 3 1/2 hours behind GMT) ... one of only 2 (I think) 30 min. off-set Time Zones in the world ... |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by shawn_b on 07/24/05 at 11:53:18 its 2:51 here in ohio and no beer just work at 3:30 but first i ride ;D shawn |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/24/05 at 12:02:18 Bitters take some getting used to but maybe I haven't had a good one yet. I don't know. I know that Foster's Bitter was a system shock after a normal Foster's the first time I had one. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Paladin on 07/24/05 at 12:17:42 You'll be wanting a Courage Director's Draft Bitter. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Savage_Rob on 07/24/05 at 12:22:36 I made a note of it for future reference. |
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Mr 650 on 07/24/05 at 17:02:14 Yeah it was in the news. I have been away, I had 170+ hours the 1st 2 weeks this month and was not able to hang-out much at SS.com. ::) I am finishing up in KY and look forward to riding my 650 when I get back next weekend. ;D I am way down on my beer quota, however I am down TWO notches on my belt too. .. quite literally working my @ss off ;D ;D Greg_650 wrote:
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Title: Re: LOUD Post by Greg_650 on 07/24/05 at 20:57:39 Mr 650 wrote:
I could use a couple notches off my belt too.....oh, but then I'd be embarrassing ::) |
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