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Reply #75 - 06/17/05 at 00:32:55

Sounds like the valve seals dried out during the sitting up period. My wife's 800 Intruder does that as well, didn't before sitting up for almost 3.5 years. Pop off the little oval valve covers, adjust the valves, and check out the seals while you are in there. I THINK the Savage uses standard rubber umbrella seals...Greg? Could be as simple as the valves aren't closing all the way and letting oil "weep" through...

Keep up the good work. Sounds like it is coming along nicely.
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Reply #76 - 06/17/05 at 14:28:10

WD wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Sounds like the valve seals dried out during the sitting up period. My wife's 800 Intruder does that as well, didn't before sitting up for almost 3.5 years. Pop off the little oval valve covers, adjust the valves, and check out the seals while you are in there. I THINK the Savage uses standard rubber umbrella seals...Greg? Could be as simple as the valves aren't closing all the way and letting oil "weep" through...

Keep up the good work. Sounds like it is coming along nicely.
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Me? I'm digging deep into my sometimes empty, mostly burned out, possibly dead memory bank and all that I remember are o-ring type seals on the valves. Maybe I'm thinking of a different engine, but I think they are round o-ring type

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Ressurecting an 87 LS650PH Reply #77 - 06/17/05 at 14:36:06 Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06: It's been a while but if I remember correctly, white smoke is burning oil. Yes.....
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Re: Ressurecting an 87 LS650PH
Reply #78 - 06/17/05 at 14:37:09

Setral wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Holy hell, its been over two weeks since I was here last!!!

Well, I took her out onto the driveway today, got her running for about 15 minutes. The only problem is once she warmed up, all I got was whitish smoke coming from the exhaust.

The good thing to note, is even after running for 15 minutes, I didn't notice any oil dripping off of the bike, that was a problem previously. And after she warmed up the idling problem actually cleared up.

Still have to fix the turn signals and have the tires swapped, but more curious to this white smoke issue.

Did you add any oil to the gas?

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Re: Ressurecting an 87 LS650PH
Reply #79 - 06/19/05 at 08:56:18

Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Maybe I'm thinking of a different engine, but I think they are round o-ring type

Sorry to correct you guys, there's NO o-ring on the valves. It's a type like this:

And can only be replaced with the cylinderhead off.
I know there was another thread in which we discussed the trick to replace the seals with the valves and head in situ,, but thats beyond the scope of this thread.

BTW: If the smoke is white and you think it's oil, you can defenitly smell it.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Ressurecting an 87 LS650PH Reply #80 - 06/19/05 at 09:03:08 Okay. I sit corrected, but they are still "round". Yep, need to remove the head to change the seals. I even made my own spring compressor with a clamp to remove the keepers on the valve spring.
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Reply #81 - 06/23/05 at 14:27:11

I should pay more attention to the boards.

As for the smell, it definately doesn't smell good. Its not just gasoline.

And no, I didn't put any oil into the gas tank. The gas was straight Unleaded.

Have family visiting for the next month, which means the chance of me getting anything done is even less than before.

Ah well... I hope she'll be done before middle of July.

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Reply #82 - 06/23/05 at 15:02:11

Setral wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Have family visiting for the next month, which means the chance of me getting anything done is even less than before.

Ah well... I hope she'll be done before middle of July.

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Re: Ressurecting an 87 LS650PH
Reply #84 - 06/23/05 at 22:09:44

Savage_Rob wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:06:

Yup. Of Hollywood Squares fame and the voice of Templeton the rat on the Charlotte's Web cartoon. Wasn't he on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In too?

it was somebody that looked simular.

as a video editor i worked for thingy martin, i did a 50th birthday video for his wife, it had bob newhart, don rickles, james gardner, ed mc mahon and a host of others. all making birthday wishes and little jokes.

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Reply #85 - 06/29/05 at 15:09:42

lol.. you guys are a riot.

I had her running, and tearing up the field for a good hour, with little to no smoke, and when I checked the next day I didn't notice any loss of oil. So, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe some of the ATF I used to lube her up, might have gotten into the exhaust and into the baffels.

Need to finish the rear turnsignals (pull then, fix them, then reattachment) just haven't done it yet. And then I can see about getting it legal.

Whew.... 100F today not counting the Heat Index, man the bike would have been tons better feeling than the Bronco II.

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