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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2697 WTF is JOG?	Re: advchopper build Reply #15 - 11/28/23 at 06:18:47 https://youtu.be/376Ns8l6Q7M?si=tZI0f3bBXq8O-lb4 https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1371091600
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Reply #16 - 11/28/23 at 13:05:57

Yes, exactly as you described Dave.
If it's normal and it will not result in like engine-exploding kinda experinces, I'm OK with it.

Today i checked the decomp setting. It was at 5mm when i measure according to
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Set it to about 3mm an its great now! You can hear the starter spin up, gain speed and then get the thing rolling. Apparently at 5mm it did not open the valves.

Also bike starts great and idles neat. (2 degrees C today)
I expected a bit more struggle to be honest... Also plug is rather black. Seems to me that it's too rich.

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Zoltan Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 70	Re: advchopper build Reply #17 - 11/28/23 at 13:09:51 Oh Wow! Watched that video and now I want to go out in the snow and play! Thanks, Ohiomoto. That bike sure looks like a lof of fun!
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2697 WTF is JOG?	Re: advchopper build Reply #18 - 11/28/23 at 14:41:05 The picture is from a build thread on here (not the same bike as the one in the video). I added a link to it below the picture in my original reply. It looks like your bike has the "head plug leak". You might want to fix it.
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Re: advchopper build
Reply #19 - 11/28/23 at 14:55:18

Zoltan wrote on 11/28/23 at 13:05:57:

Also plug is rather black. Seems to me that it's too rich.

Don't worry about the color of the plug if you haven't been out on a long ride and got the temperature of the engine hot and kept it that way long enough for the plug to burn off the carbon that occurs at startup.

A spark plug won't get to a proper color if the bike is not being ridden.

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Zoltan Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 70	Re: advchopper build Reply #20 - 11/29/23 at 03:52:19 Well, I did not get very far in the snow. More or less as soon as i hit the unpaved bit (we have a packed gravel private driveway for a couple of houses), so grass and mud under the snow it was not going anywhere. Couple of turns on the yard that was it.
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Reply #21 - 11/29/23 at 03:55:19

ohiomoto wrote on 11/28/23 at 14:41:05:

It looks like your bike has the "head plug leak". You might want to fix it.

Do I? Shouldn't i see oil on the cylinder? What are the signs? Sorry for the ignorance, I'm used to 40 years old 2 smokers from behind the Iron curtain, they usually wear an outside coat of oil and dirt that keeps oil inside. That or they are not used just kept as an ornament.

(Now that you mention it, I used to have a GS450 with 55k miles on it, and it was dry, did not smoke, etc... )

Should i see oil here?

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Zoltan Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 70	Re: advchopper build Reply #22 - 11/29/23 at 03:56:02 or in here? Sorry lousy photo, it's pretty dry in there, though not too clean.
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Zoltan Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 70	Re: advchopper build Reply #23 - 11/29/23 at 04:04:10 Oh an another question. I saw lot of build without the front fender, (RYCA comes to mind) then read a lot of opinions that you need a fork brace... You know, internet, everybody is absolutely right in the big anonym void. So what do you think?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28780 L.A. California Gender:	Re: advchopper build Reply #24 - 11/29/23 at 08:41:25 of course it all depends on your build/your bike but I know adding a fork brace will improve the feel of steadiness of the front.
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2697 WTF is JOG?	Re: advchopper build Reply #25 - 11/29/23 at 12:05:56 I could be wrong but it looks like there is oil all over the cylinder. [
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Reply #26 - 11/29/23 at 12:14:30

Also, you can post multiple pictures in one post if they are publicly hosted. If you upload a picture as an attachment, it is hosted by this site and you can use the img tags to display it. The only problem is they are often very large so I recommend resizing them before uploading them.

I would be happy to remove the picture above since it is so large. It's your thread so whatever you decide is fine by me.

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Reply #27 - 11/30/23 at 02:36:53

ohiomoto wrote on 11/29/23 at 12:05:56:

I could be wrong but it looks like there is oil all over the cylinder.
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You are right there, the flash revealed it so much better than the naked eye can se from eye level. It looks much worse on the picture.

If I have the plug seal issue shouldn't I see oil a big higher up on the cylinder head? This looks to me rather like cylinder head gasket sweating through by bolts, etc?

... but you are right of course. While writing this reply I searched a bit and here it is:
https://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1147053351/5
Mine is not that serious (or just did not ride it long and hard enough) but will fix it after the Elefantreffen. Thanks!

Verslagen, thanks. Was there a difference in front fender over the years? Mine is thick steel (bike, '89 German market) but i think i read somewhere that there was plastic...? People mentioned the fork braces improving handling and they mentioned plastic fenders. Would a cut down U shape of the steel fender do the trick? I'm afraid that the shape of the fender is that gives it strength against twisting by the forks, so if i cut it it's worth equals to tits on a bull. Then either i have wobbly front or buy the bullet and fork over a wad of cash for a pro brace? Eh, I need to ride this thing first to see if it's bad (I mean worse than what I'm used to)

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Reply #28 - 11/30/23 at 03:30:30

Back in the old days I used a "free" host called "tinypic" for all my pictures....it was really convenient and I could post multiple photos.

Sorry to say.....the place went out of business and all the photos I posted were gone, hundreds of photos and the threads are now trash. My 22 page Bike Build thread is pretty worthless without the photos.

From now on I am satisfied using the forum to host the photos and I post one photo at a time.

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Zoltan Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 70	Re: advchopper build Reply #29 - 11/30/23 at 07:03:51 Dave wrote on 11/30/23 at 03:30:30: From now on I am satisfied using the forum to host the photos and I post one photo at a time. I thought i'll be happy with the one picture per post just out of lazyness but now I definitely will be happy with it out of distrust too!
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