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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8996 Minn Gender:	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #75 - 09/16/19 at 15:03:30 Serowbot wrote on 09/16/19 at 14:27:23: Gun owners are a powerful lobby for Red votes,... 'Some' say 22-29%. Other say 46% of American Citizens, own guns.
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Reply #76 - 09/16/19 at 15:09:26

Serowbot wrote on 09/16/19 at 14:27:23:

Gun owners are a powerful lobby for Red votes,... but they are not as universal as they think.
And with every shooting, their position weakens.

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A little math is in order.
3% of the population is 9,600,000. There are an estimated 400 million guns. 50% of that is 200,000,000. Which means there are over 9 million people with an average of 21 guns each???

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #77 - 09/16/19 at 15:12:40 Choose to not participate You'll get violence So Violence is part of the equation Pretend it's not so
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Reply #78 - 09/16/19 at 15:29:47

"Choose to not participate
You'll get violence
So
Violence is part of the equation
Pretend it's not so "

No one is pretending, I am just calling out the wordsmithing that makes a Mandatory Buy Out sound like it is Mandatory Violence.

It' only violence if you choose not to abide by the law.

Like speeding.

The odds will be stacked against the ones who talk instead of doing.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8996 Minn Gender:	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #79 - 09/16/19 at 15:59:48 Eegore wrote on 09/16/19 at 15:29:47: It' only violence if you choose not to abide by the law. (Regarding firearms, not a MPH speed) So you mean: It's only violence, if you choose, not to allow your property, to be, Confiscated !
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8006	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #80 - 09/16/19 at 19:18:33 "So you mean: It's only violence, if you choose, not to allow your property, to be, Confiscated ! " Yes. But that's not what was said. What was said is a Mandatory Buyback IS violence. So speeding is also violence, and any other law that is enforced, its all violence.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28760 L.A. California Gender:	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #81 - 09/17/19 at 10:57:58 MnSpring wrote on 09/16/19 at 15:03:30: Serowbot wrote on 09/16/19 at 14:27:23: Gun owners are a powerful lobby for Red votes,... 'Some' say 22-29%. Other say 46% of American Citizens, own guns. And that's just the ones they know about.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #82 - 09/17/19 at 18:55:47 Funny how Going to houses Arresting illegal aliens Deporting them Impossible Going house to house Pointing guns at law abiding citizens Confiscation their property Easy That's where violence occurs
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Reply #83 - 09/17/19 at 19:40:21

"Funny how
Going to houses
Arresting illegal aliens
Deporting them
Impossible
Going house to house
Pointing guns at law abiding citizens
Confiscation their property
Easy"

Nobody said that.

It's not easy, its a nightmare, and most likely not possible.

If the law is passed they are no longer "Law Abiding" citizens. But it sure sounds better to say it that way. Too bad nobody trying to change law will take any of that seriously.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #84 - 09/17/19 at 20:00:53 You actually believe that just writing a law makes it okay? You're aware that a law Contrary to the constitution Is no law at all, right?
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Reply #85 - 09/17/19 at 21:07:14

"You actually believe that just writing a law makes it okay?
You're aware that a law
Contrary to the constitution
Is no law at all, right?"

I am. Look at what happened with DC, perfect example of that.

Even though the law was eventually considered to be in violation of the 2nd, that did not mean people weren't prosecuted when it was enacted.

By definition, not by spirit, ethics, interpretation, bias, concept, theory, design, structure or methodology, but by definition in and of itself, as in exclusivity, the term, "definition": people carrying without permit in DC were not "Law Abiding"

If law exists, and one is not following it, they are not law abiding. By your logic all law that is enforced IS violence. Speed limit law is violence, because if I choose not to comply I get violence.

Now spend just 5 minutes thinking bout the logistics of police going door to door clearing every house, apartment complex, high rise etc. in just one city and tell me anyone would ever think "door to door" gun confiscation is plausible.

Nobody has ever recommended it for a reason.

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Reply #86 - 09/18/19 at 07:31:02

Eegore wrote on 09/17/19 at 21:07:14:

Nobody has ever recommended it for a reason.

What was that that Beto said ?
“Hell yes, we’re going to take away your AR-15!” …
(Which was fully enforced by Booker and Harris, and is now working its way into the manifestos of gun-control groups nationwide)

Beto has about -99.99 chance of being president, and implementing the, Confiscation.
(About the same odds as B.S.)
Yet those words, which ignited this firestorm, are now, ALSO, the words of the various, gun-control groups.

“Nobody is coming for your guns!” was, the mantra the UL FDS Socialists said,
when people defended firearms.
Now the Cat is, out of the Bag.
“Nobody is coming for your guns!” is no longer true.

Again, the chance of gun Confiscation is, -99.99%.

YET, The frog is Jumping OUT of the pan of cold water,
because the frog now KNOWS, with absolute certainly,
the UL FDS Socialists Snowflakes,
ARE, going to raise the water temp.

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Reply #87 - 09/18/19 at 13:53:47

"What was that that Beto said ?"
"Hell yes, we’re going to take away your AR-15!” "

Lets use the same logic for Beto as we have been told on this very forum to use for Trump: Don't take it literally.

I am very specifically saying that the police going "door to door" engaging civilians in armed shootouts on private property to confiscate guns has not been recommended by anybody.

Do you really think there will be enough law enforcement to hold down just one city and clear room by room every gun from every person?

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12843 Gender:	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #88 - 09/18/19 at 13:56:23 Do you really think there will be enough law enforcement to hold down just one city and clear room by room every gun from every person? No. For the same reasons why the 2nd Amendment exist to begin with.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: we’re going to take your (GUN) Reply #89 - 09/18/19 at 14:16:27 If the Second Amendment indeed means "no infringement" then why are there limitations on ownership of, say, mini-guns or tanks?
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