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Reply #30 - 05/29/19 at 13:02:44
 
Having read the constitution, I don't see where abortion is spoken to.
Yet, lefties contend it's as much a Right as speaking, which is reserved for those of us who weren't aborted.
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Reply #31 - 05/29/19 at 13:16:45
 
Three Constitutional Basics Every Abortion Rights Supporter Should Know
https://rewire.news/article/2016/06/17/three-constitutional-basics-every-abor...
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Reply #32 - 05/29/19 at 13:50:05
 
Even Hillary admitted that only because the language of the constitution explains citizenship, and thusly, constitutional rights is limited to those people who are
Born or naturalized....

The constitution makes no mention of abortion.
Somehow it is supposed to a big deal that voting isn't mentioned, when it was a common event, accepted as normal.
Hunting isn't spoken of. Because hunting is NATURAL, it was a very much important skill.
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Reply #33 - 05/29/19 at 14:05:08
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/29/19 at 13:50:05:
Even Hillary admitted that only because the language of the constitution explains citizenship, and thusly, constitutional rights is limited to those people who are
Born or naturalized....

The constitution makes no mention of abortion.
Somehow it is supposed to a big deal that voting isn't mentioned, when it was a common event, accepted as normal.
Hunting isn't spoken of. Because hunting is NATURAL, it was a very much important skill.



Well jog, abortion isn't illegal.  It's not going to become illegal.  You best make your peace with it and move on.
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Reply #34 - 05/29/19 at 15:53:44
 
MnSpring wrote on 05/29/19 at 07:52:19:
LostArtist wrote on 05/28/19 at 23:11:05:
and since voting is RUN by the STATES
the STATES get to decide how they clear THEIR voter registration lists

Correct that is why some States just require a 'tick' on a box saying,
"are you a Citizen of the USA", and require NO PROOF

the federal government just has to guess at their procedures.  you know, like gun background checks...  

Nop, Nop, Nop, not even remotely close.  Mandatory Background checks are the Fed law. States can make laws that are added to Fed law, but not reduce them.

nope, not true at all...  

the FBI depends on 3 databases, which have varying levels of participation by the states, and there's a patchwork of varying gun control laws throughout various states so what's reported by one state may not be what's reported by another state... etc.. it's very complicated. so, as usual Garbage In, Garbage Out....  which is why background checks have failed in at least 3 mass shootings

"Where does the gun background check system get all this information?
To ascertain whether an applicant should be disqualified from owning a gun, the FBI draws from three databases. The Interstate Identification Index is a giant repository of criminal convictions used by an array of law enforcement agencies for a range of purposes. The National Crime Information Center, or NCIC, is an “electronic clearinghouse” of other criminal justice records, including protective orders and disposition records  Finally, there’s the NICS Indices, which include records contributed by federal, state and local agencies specifically flagging individuals prohibited from buying a gun.  

The NICS Indices hold records that wouldn’t necessarily show up in the other two solely criminal databases. That includes those related to mental health and immigration status. However, some states like Connecticut add nearly all prohibiting records to the NICS Indices because they typically result in a quick denial, without any need for further investigation by the FBI."





unless you want the federal government to have a record of how you voted in every election and then when Trump wants to he can indict you for treason if you didn't vote for him...  

That is called, Socialism.
It is what the UL, FDS's are in favor of.
Trump is NOT in favor of that !!!!!


he's definitely leaning that way...

"President Donald Trump used the T-word, this time saying that former FBI officials who were involved in investigating his campaign committed treason.

Asked at a White House event which of his adversaries he had in mind when he accused them of treason, he said, "A number of people. They have unsuccessfully tried to take down the wrong person." He then specified former FBI director James Comey, former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page, and former FBI agent Peter Strzok.

"That's treason. They couldn't win the election, and that's what happened."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-doesn-t-understand-what-tr...

it's a small step from not allowing government employees their own personal opinions on politics to not allowing you yours.

and no, it's not socialism, it's authoritarianism, learn the difference, it's important.  I know you're confused because when you think socialism you think Russia and Venezuela and probably Nazi Germany... etc..  which where are AUTHORITARIAN socialist/fascist governments.  that's why it's actually important to LISTEN and hear the words people are saying when they things like DEMOCRATIC socialism (which to be clear, in the most honest definition of socialism, isn't even really that socialist)  
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Reply #35 - 05/29/19 at 15:55:50
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/29/19 at 13:02:44:
Having read the constitution, I don't see where abortion is spoken to.
Yet, lefties contend it's as much a Right as speaking, which is reserved for those of us who weren't aborted.


is the right to you being able to control your own body, autonomy, a standing principle in the Constitution?
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Reply #36 - 05/29/19 at 16:23:36
 
LostArtist wrote on 05/29/19 at 15:55:50:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/29/19 at 13:02:44:
Having read the constitution, I don't see where abortion is spoken to.
Yet, lefties contend it's as much a Right as speaking, which is reserved for those of us who weren't aborted.


is the right to you being able to control your own body, autonomy, a standing principle in the Constitution?


Yes and no Lost. We have laws that protect children under a certain age. Regardless of what the child wants, a 12 yesr old can't enter into a contract. Or get a face tatoo. We have laws that require vaccinations for example regardless of what the parents think. A 20 year old can't alter his perception of the world by drinking alcohol We have a lot of laws that over ride what one person wants to do to their body.

The only question that a person has to answer is at what point does a human life deserve legal status. After that point, you can't just kill someone.
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Reply #37 - 05/29/19 at 16:36:01
 
LostArtist wrote on 05/29/19 at 15:53:44:
"Where does the gun background check system get all this information? To ascertain whether an applicant should be disqualified from owning a gun, the FBI draws from three databases. The Interstate Identification Index is a giant repository of criminal convictions used by an array of law enforcement agencies for a range of purposes. The National Crime Information Center, or NCIC, is an “electronic clearinghouse” of other criminal justice records, including protective orders and disposition records  Finally, there’s the NICS Indices, which include records contributed by federal, state and local agencies specifically flagging individuals prohibited from buying a gun.  
The NICS Indices hold records that wouldn’t necessarily show up in the other two solely criminal databases. That includes those related to mental health and immigration status. However, some states like Connecticut add nearly all prohibiting records to the NICS Indices because they typically result in a quick denial, without any need for further investigation by the FBI."

Thanks for making my Point !!!!!!

there's a patchwork of varying gun control laws throughout various states so what's reported by one state may not be what's reported by another state... etc.. it's very complicated.

So 'complicated' you don't understand what is happening or how it works.
Oh, ya want to go into detail about what you believe, 'common sense gun laws' are?  Or is that just a phrase that is suppose to mean something, like, 'Don't Shoot, Hands Up' LOLOLOLOLOLO

(Socialism)
he's definitely leaning that way...
That's a Joke, Right !

it's a small step from not allowing government employees their own personal opinions on politics to not allowing you yours.
DEMOCRATIC socialism (which to be clear, in the most honest definition of socialism, isn't even really that socialist)


I believe you need to stop drinking the, Kool-Aid, that someone is giving you.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #38 - 05/29/19 at 16:40:37
 

The only question that a person has to answer is at what point does a human life deserve legal status. After that point, you can't just kill someone.

 I agree with this to a point.  Forcing a mother to give birth to a child that is a result of a family member sexually assaulting her, to me, would be an exception where the mother has more say than all other voting humans in her district.

 Capital punishment also being part of the killing someone but that isn't what this discussion is about.
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