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Reply #15 - 02/18/19 at 20:47:33
 
Sorry for the separate posts for each photo.  Only updates is I didn't hear any sloshing inside the float and I didn't inspect the needle and seat too closely, but imo the float seems in good shape and moves freely and how I would expect it to move.

When I manage to get this sob up and running I'll be sure to get in the habit of shutting the petcock off at night to let it get beauty rest.
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Reply #16 - 02/19/19 at 03:12:31
 
You need to check the float needle and seat AND the o-ring. See #21 here: https://www.ronayers.com/oemparts/a/suz/50d32fb5f8700232d0b3d91e/carburetor

You can get all of those in a relatively cheap rebuild kit on ebay.

(I had the o-ring fail on both my bikes)
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Reply #17 - 02/21/19 at 21:21:55
 
is float needle #19 or #25
Can anyone provide specific inspection instructions?  Everything seems to be in working order to me, but to be honest, I'm not entire sure what I'm looking for.  



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Reply #18 - 02/22/19 at 09:05:00
 
The needle is the aluminum piece in your picture the brass tube it sits in is the seat.  Those two pieces are part 19 in the diagram.   Part 25 is the pin that holds the float (part 24).  

You will need to push the pin out and remove the float.  The needle is clipped to the tab on the float.

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Reply #19 - 02/22/19 at 09:44:47
 
And you should plug the drain line from the air box ,when left open when running it allows unfiltered air to enter motor ,causing damage.(a bolt and a plastic wire tie ,work for me ) Open and drain at oil change time.
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Reply #20 - 02/22/19 at 17:28:54
 
Push the pin out and remove the float, inspect the needle tip and make sure it is not damaged and is still pliable (it is soft rubber or Viton).  Then remove the screw that holds the seat in place and remove the seat and make sure the O-ring is in good shape.

You may not have a serious problem......if the gas leaked in over 2 months of sitting you may just have a slow tiny seep - and shutting the petcock off at the end of each ride may resolve your problems.
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Reply #21 - 02/23/19 at 00:13:59
 
The pin for the float only comes out in one direction (look for the head on one end of the pin)
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Reply #22 - 02/24/19 at 21:41:15
 
Tried to remove the pin tonight, no luck. Will try again tomorrow and borrow a spring punch like used in the video
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Reply #23 - 02/27/19 at 19:00:43
 
I got the pin out and here's what I'm looking at.  I'm struggling to get this seat screw out.  I'm going to borrow a better screw driver.  Tip seems to be in good shape to me.





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Reply #24 - 02/27/19 at 19:11:19
 
What you need is a impact screwdriver... a smaller version of an impact driver.

Harbor freight used to have them, not sure this is the same size.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MYYL8RC/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07MY...
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Reply #25 - 02/27/19 at 19:47:59
 
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Reply #26 - 02/28/19 at 07:36:40
 
Leave the seat in there and buy a new float needle.  

You can clearly see that needle in worn in the picture.  It has a groove worn into the rubber where is mates with the seat.  Needle seats really don't need to be replaced unless the show damage from corrosion and your's looks perfect. Trying to remove it is unnecessary and may cause more damage than good.

On a side note: I'm actually surprised that so many of our forum members encourage people to fix things that aren't broke.  Most of these guys and gals are very experienced and should know better.   Angry
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Reply #27 - 02/28/19 at 16:08:22
 
Ohio. the valve and seat are made and sold as a matched set, the reason to pull the seat is not mainly because of wear but to check / or replace, the rubber O-ring ,if it leaks by the carb will flood regardless  of the condition of the float/ float valve.
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Reply #28 - 02/28/19 at 21:07:51
 

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Reply #29 - 03/01/19 at 04:48:50
 
Yep - Bats is right.....and there is a screen filter on top of the seat that might/could use some cleaning.
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