LOCK HIM UP!!!

You guys should begin mentally preparing yourselves for “individual 1” to be shown as not having committed any crimes.

No they aren't.

you sir are mistaken No, I am not. I don't know where you get your information from, but you should consider new sources.

Hush money payments are completely legal. They happen every day. I can pay you to be quiet about an incident between us and there's nothing illegal about that. (And the incident doesn't have to be a legal action, but that brings a few other variables into play.) We can settle a lawsuit and the terms state any settlement money paid is forfeited if you speak meaning you accepted hush money and if you talk, you have to pay it back.

Imagine a situation where a campaign rents equipment for an event and then through some mixup, doesn't pay the bill. Some lower level supporter thinks he's doing the right thing by complaining the chairs weren't soft enough or something and holds back half the fee. The campaign manager can step in, pay the bill in full and add a little extra with the understanding the rental company won't speak about the situation because it would be embarrassing to the candidate. That's completely legal.

Within the context of a campaign, things get a little more complicated but the principal remains. However, with the Trump situation, two very important factors. One; Trump self-funded his campaign. Remember John Edwards from NC? He accepted donations from a couple of rich supporters and used that to pay his mistress's and child's expenses. He was put on trial and acquitted despite the fact he used campaign money, not his own.

The second big factor is the act itself was not illegal. It's not illegal to screw and then pay someone later not to tell.

Now, all this doesn't mean Trump won't or couldn't be indicted. A prosecutor could decide to indict for political purposes knowing full well there is zero chance of a legal violation. That happens all the time in an effort to hopefully get someone to talk.

If that happened, the TDS infected among us would be giddy for weeks, months or years until the trial (assuming the charges weren't dropped later) but ultimately, there'll be no conviction because there was no crime.

No.
Again two points. 1) hush money in and of itself is not illegal. 2) as I said, campaigns bring a new element into it, under that broad of an  interpretation, you would be prosecuting every campaign.

That  doesn't mean a prosecutor won't file charged against Trump.

unindicted co-conspirator (remember tricky I'm not a crook dickey?)
violating campaign laws then the cover up
bank fraud, tax fraud, possible
1974 all over again
more to come

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/09/18 at 15:23:31:


No shortage of unreasonable prosecutors though. Prosecutors that have access to almost limitless financial resources, because they of course are spending our money, money extorted from us in the form of taxes, and there are no consequences to them if they ultimately loose. Even Trump isn't rich enough to counter that, and he will have to finance his own defense. Just like Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, etc. etc.

This whole clusterf*ck has nothing whatever to do with what is legal anyway. It is entirely a political exercise.

If this cabal manages to Fu*k Trump, and they likely will, they will have managed to fu*k the rest of us too, regardless of ideology or political affiliation.

All the folks gleefully and breathlessly waiting for this one mans demise won't be so cheerful when they realise that they are in  line for the same kind of screwing. Or maybe they'll just bend over and enjoy it.