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Reply #15 - 12/09/18 at 17:26:08
 
oldNslow wrote on 12/09/18 at 17:05:59:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/09/18 at 15:23:31:
No reasonable prosecutor would file against Trump.


No shortage of unreasonable prosecutors though. Prosecutors that have access to almost limitless financial resources, because they of course are spending our money, money extorted from us in the form of taxes, and there are no consequences to them if they ultimately loose. Even Trump isn't rich enough to counter that, and he will have to finance his own defense. Just like Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, etc. etc.

This whole clusterf*ck has nothing whatever to do with what is legal anyway. It is entirely a political exercise.

If this cabal manages to Fu*k Trump, and they likely will, they will have managed to fu*k the rest of us too, regardless of ideology or political affiliation.

All the folks gleefully and breathlessly waiting for this one mans demise won't be so cheerful when they realise that they are in  line for the same kind of screwing. Or maybe they'll just bend over and enjoy it.



It's really nice to see others who get it.
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Reply #16 - 12/10/18 at 05:27:30
 


It's really nice to see others who get it.
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you are not alone
sadly the obtuse are everywhere
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Reply #17 - 12/10/18 at 05:32:19
 
Yes they are everywhere. I'm constantly reminded there are at least 63 million....
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Reply #18 - 12/10/18 at 12:18:04
 
On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign, including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate and supporter of Individual-1. During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories -each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election.
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Reply #19 - 12/10/18 at 13:51:16
 
T And T Garage wrote on 12/10/18 at 12:18:04:
On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign, including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate and supporter of Individual-1. During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories -each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election.



Ivanka and Jr?.....Mebbe... Cool
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Reply #20 - 12/10/18 at 14:20:41
 
Did either of you read the link to the FEC I posted? Did either one of you know the name Donald Trump before he was a declared Presidential candidate? Do either of you understand what you posted represents an opinion by prosecutor?
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Reply #21 - 12/10/18 at 14:22:48
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/10/18 at 14:20:41:
Did either of you read the link to the FEC I posted? Did either one of you know the name Donald Trump before he was a declared Presidential candidate? Do either of you understand what you posted represents an opinion by prosecutor?


Yes, yes and yes.

But you go right ahead and defend this orange moron to the end.
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Reply #22 - 12/10/18 at 15:50:29
 
Apparently you did not.
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Reply #23 - 12/10/18 at 18:07:41
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/10/18 at 15:50:29:
Apparently you did not.



No, I did.

Sorry you don't like it, but IDGAF.
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Reply #24 - 12/11/18 at 06:01:18
 
There will be no indictment of a sitting President and certainly that won't be tested on weak campaign finance charges that are routinely ignored.

Since the Russian collusion dream is fading fast, that leaves impeachment for paying hush money for sex, something many politicians have done themselves.  With only a simple majority needed, its possible the Dems could do that but Trump would never be convicted in a Senate trial so the whole thing will be meaningless other than to harm Trump's chances in 2020. And I'm not 100% convinced a majority of the House would vote to impeach.
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Reply #25 - 12/11/18 at 06:34:10
 
WebsterMark wrote on 12/11/18 at 06:01:18:
There will be no indictment of a sitting President and certainly that won't be tested on weak campaign finance charges that are routinely ignored.

Since the Russian collusion dream is fading fast,

"fading fast"?  Really?
http://www.axios.com/trump-russia-mueller-investigation-37608752-bef7-4b25-a7...

I'd say that it's picking up steam.


that leaves impeachment for paying hush money for sex, something many politicians have done themselves.  

Again, really?  And how many did it with campaign money?  How many of them got caught lying about it multiple times?

With only a simple majority needed, its possible the Dems could do that but Trump would never be convicted in a Senate trial so the whole thing will be meaningless other than to harm Trump's chances in 2020.

The dems aren't really doing much at all.  Seriously mark, just read trump's twitter feed.  He's doing this all to himself.  I don't know why you refuse to see that.

And I'm not 100% convinced a majority of the House would vote to impeach.


You keep believing what you wish.  

I have a prediction - you are going to loathe 2019 and what it will do to your president trump.
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Reply #26 - 12/11/18 at 09:20:02
 
Just because your side manages to destroy Trump or what he's accomplished doesn't mean it's right or good. Your goals are wrong. We are where we are because both
Sides have screwed America.
Trump is trying to give YOU back the America we were screwed out of.
You idiotic social engineering clowns are wrecking America.
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Reply #27 - 12/11/18 at 09:50:13
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/11/18 at 09:20:02:
Just because your side manages to destroy Trump or what he's accomplished doesn't mean it's right or good.

Again, it's not "my side".  The man is incompetent.  He couldn't draft a bill if his life depended on it.  Look at his twitter feed.  It shows how moronic he truly is.  This is solely on his shoulders.

You want to say that the economy is doing well - fine.  It is, to some degree.  But it has zero to do with trump.

The only thing trump is doing is profiting off the office of president.  That's it.  This is only a publicity blitz for him - nothing more.   When you have a cabinet and staff like he does - in such disarray, it's not a coincidence.  It show his lack of leadership.


Your goals are wrong. We are where we are because both
Sides have screwed America.

HA!  Well at the moment jog, we're getting a severe pounding in the a$$ by the conservatives.

Trump is trying to give YOU back the America we were screwed out of.
You idiotic social engineering clowns are wrecking America.


LOL - "social engineering clowns"?  Tell you what jog - just say thank you for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, clean water, cops, fire-fighters, interstate highways, public schools, ending segregation and everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?
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Reply #28 - 12/11/18 at 10:28:49
 
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 09:50:13:
just say thank you for ... ...  everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Just can't stop Lying can you.

The total LACK of complicate information.
Is a LIE.

I don't get paid to teach you, the FACTS.
But here is one little freebee.

S.S. was/is FORCED,  Because it was/is a FORCED way to increase the amount one could borrow against.
Their was NO, option, to do a saving account, instead of SS.
(Yes Virginia, one could/can do a extra one, but one could/can, NOT replace the, FORCED SS one)
One could be added,  but Nothing could replace the, FORCED, SS saving account.  
Which now, is dwindling, NOT, because more people are retiring.
But because more people, who never paid in, 'one cent' are getting huge amounts.





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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #29 - 12/11/18 at 10:41:47
 
MnSpring wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:28:49:
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 09:50:13:
just say thank you for ... ...  everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Just can't stop Lying can you.

The total LACK of complicate information. What is "complicate information"?  Is it complicated to you?  Is it not complicated enough for you?  Do you want me to include more complicated information?  LOL - hey there mn, learn how to spell and use words, huh?
Aren't you tired of looking foolish?

Is a LIE.

I don't get paid to teach you, the FACTS.
But here is one little freebee.

S.S. was/is FORCED,  Because it was/is a FORCED way to increase the amount one could borrow against.
Their was NO, option, to do a saving account, instead of SS.
(Yes Virginia, one could/can do a extra one, but one could/can, NOT replace the, FORCED SS one)
One could be added,  but Nothing could replace the, FORCED, SS saving account.  
Which now, is dwindling, NOT, because more people are retiring.
But because more people, who never paid in, 'one cent' are getting huge amounts.

Do you have any proof of that?  I don't think you do.

I also don't think you don't know how it works, do you?  If you never paid into Social Security, you don't get Social Security - unless you're married and your spouse did.






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