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12/10/18 at 09:47:34
 
Never goes away.

Apparently, trump (and most of his followers) don't seem to realize that.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-scorched-over-tweet-bashing-035734953.html


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Reply #1 - 12/10/18 at 09:50:36
 
Oh, as a side note, let me add this:

It (his tweets) will play a part in his continuing downfall and his impeachment.
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Reply #2 - 12/11/18 at 10:12:02
 
TandT wrote:

"Digital History - never goes away"

True. But don't forget that, like a knife, what or who, this cuts depends on who is wielding it.

Stalin would have loved the internet and social media. His huge, expensive, unwieldy, secret police apparatus would have been unnecessary. Denunciations by other comrades. or friends and family members,  driven by fear, or revenge, or jealousy, or  misguided ideology, would have been superfluous. A couple of geeks with smartphones and a search engine would have done the trick.

"Off to the gulag you go" with nothing more than a quick search,  a couple of clicks, and a speedy show trial. "Welcome to Siberia comrade!"

If Trump goes down this time around, don't gloat too much. Best keep an eye on your six and pay attention to who might be holding the knife next time around.

No secrets. No immunity. Who's up and who's down never stays the same for long.

This is the world we live in now. When thought or speech can be made a crime, we are all criminals.
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Reply #3 - 12/11/18 at 10:19:25
 
oldNslow wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:12:02:
TandT wrote:

"Digital History - never goes away"

True. But don't forget that, like a knife, what or who, this cuts depends on who is wielding it.

Stalin would have loved the internet and social media. His huge, expensive, unwieldy, secret police apparatus would have been unnecessary. Denunciations by other comrades. or friends and family members,  driven by fear, or revenge, or jealousy, or  misguided ideology, would have been superfluous. A couple of geeks with smartphones and a search engine would have done the trick.

"Off to the gulag you go" with nothing more than a quick search,  a couple of clicks, and a speedy show trial. "Welcome to Siberia comrade!"

If Trump goes down this time around, don't gloat too much. Best keep an eye on your six and pay attention to who might be holding the knife next time around.

No secrets. No immunity. Who's up and who's down never stays the same for long.



I highlighted your quote above exactly why this is a good thing.

Our president is currently profiting off the presidency while in office.  Among all the other sh!t that he's doing or is involved in.

Digital history shines a bright light light on all that.  I'm grateful for it.  I'm glad it's there.
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Reply #4 - 12/11/18 at 10:33:12
 
Edited my post to add this:

No secrets. No immunity. Who's up and who's down never stays the same for long.

This is the world we live in now. When thought or speech can be made a crime, we are all criminals.

[/quote] this is a good thing. [/quote]

Sure. By your lights, getting Trump is a good thing. But I believe you either missed, or are ignoring, the point of the rest of my post.

"When thought or speech can be made a crime, we are all criminals"

Lying when under oath is a crime. Lying on Twitter, or Facebook, or on the TT, or at the local tavern, isn't. At least not yet.

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Reply #5 - 12/11/18 at 10:36:25
 
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:19:25:
 I'm grateful for it.  I'm glad it's there.

LOLOL, Sure.
When it is against someone who you are against.

When it is your, Buddies, like the last POTUS, and the last wannabe POTUS. You conveniently, 'forget'.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #6 - 12/11/18 at 10:50:13
 
MnSpring wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:36:25:
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:19:25:
 I'm grateful for it.  I'm glad it's there.

LOLOL, Sure.
When it is against someone who you are against.

Or when it's for someone I'm for.

It's obvious you don't realize that it applies to everyone across the board.  You, me, Eau, Sero, jog - everyone.


When it is your, Buddies, like the last POTUS, and the last wannabe POTUS. You conveniently, 'forget'.

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Tell me, what did I "forget"?
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Reply #7 - 12/11/18 at 10:54:24
 
oldNslow wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:33:12:
Edited my post to add this:

No secrets. No immunity. Who's up and who's down never stays the same for long.

This is the world we live in now. When thought or speech can be made a crime, we are all criminals.

this is a good thing. [/quote]

Sure. By your lights, getting Trump is a good thing. But I believe you either missed, or are ignoring, the point of the rest of my post.

"When thought or speech can be made a crime, we are all criminals"

Lying when under oath is a crime. Lying on Twitter, or Facebook, or on the TT, or at the local tavern, isn't. At least not yet.

[/quote]

I stick by my statement.  The First Amendment will never go away.  Thoughts are just that.  Now, lying intentionally - that should be in question.

If trump were to use his twitter feed to say something like "I'm declaring war with North Korea" with no consultation with anyone - that should be a federal crime, don't you think?

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Reply #8 - 12/11/18 at 10:59:04
 
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:50:13:
Tell me, what did I "forget"?

The answer would be again,
what you said:

“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."


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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #9 - 12/11/18 at 11:03:02
 
MnSpring wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:59:04:
T And T Garage wrote on 12/11/18 at 10:50:13:
Tell me, what did I "forget"?

The answer would be again,
what you said:

“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."




So, you have no proof.

You're a liar.  Pathetic.

I see.  How unsurprising.
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Reply #10 - 12/11/18 at 11:17:31
 
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If trump were to use his twitter feed to say something like "I'm declaring war with North Korea" with no consultation with anyone - that should be a federal crime, don't you think?


No, it would just be stupid. Anyone who knows anything about our government is aware that the POTUS doesn't have that authority, and any president who said such a thing on twitter would be. quite rightly, ridiculed.

Anyway, the point of my post(s) really didn't have anything to do with Trump specifically, I was really talking about the danger to everyone from the weaponization of speech, particularly speech on social media platforms.

So, nevermind I guess.

Everyfuc*ing thing is about Trump I suppose. Can't see the forest on account of one big tree with a bad haircut. Sad

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Reply #11 - 12/11/18 at 11:43:35
 

Everyfuc*ing thing is about Trump I suppose. Can't see the forest on account of one big tree with a bad haircut.

 I for one blame Obama and Hillary for this.
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Reply #12 - 12/11/18 at 11:46:21
 
oldNslow wrote on 12/11/18 at 11:17:31:
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If trump were to use his twitter feed to say something like "I'm declaring war with North Korea" with no consultation with anyone - that should be a federal crime, don't you think?


No, it would just be stupid. Anyone who knows anything about our government is aware that the POTUS doesn't have that authority, and any president who said such a thing on twitter would be. quite rightly, ridiculed.

LOL - really?  OK then old, you're entitled to your opinion.  But for the record, his twitter feed is feeding his downfall.  It will be a source of much more than simple ridicule.

Anyway, the point of my post(s) really didn't have anything to do with Trump specifically, I was really talking about the danger to everyone from the weaponization of speech, particularly speech on social media platforms.

Well, I do see your point.  But just like any medium, free speech has its limits.  You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater.  Maybe it should be illegal to post proven, fabricated lies as "news".

So, nevermind I guess.

Everyfuc*ing thing is about Trump I suppose. Can't see the forest on account of one big tree with a bad haircut. Sad

This is a political/religious board.  Not sure what other political posts you might expect.  trump is the catalyst for so many things wrong in our government today.


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Reply #13 - 12/11/18 at 11:46:49
 
Eegore wrote on 12/11/18 at 11:43:35:
Everyfuc*ing thing is about Trump I suppose. Can't see the forest on account of one big tree with a bad haircut.

 I for one blame Obama and Hillary for this.



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Reply #14 - 12/11/18 at 12:35:35
 
Eegore wrote on 12/11/18 at 11:43:35:
Everyfuc*ing thing is about Trump I suppose. Can't see the forest on account of one big tree with a bad haircut.

 I for one blame Obama and Hillary for this.

OMG, an opinion w/o a disclaimer.   Wink
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