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Message started by thumperclone on 12/07/18 at 18:20:18

Title: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/07/18 at 18:20:18

"It totally clears the president, thank you"

well Donnie the time to pay the piper is fast approaching

BIGGLY!!!

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/07/18 at 18:29:07

LOCK HIM UP!!!

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by Serowbot on 12/08/18 at 08:32:56


It's not Trump,...
...apparently it's this "Individual 1" guy...  :-/

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/08/18 at 09:21:39

You guys should begin mentally preparing yourselves for “individual 1” to be shown as not having committed any crimes.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/08/18 at 11:14:48


605255444352457A56455C370 wrote:
You guys should begin mentally preparing yourselves for “individual 1” to be shown as not having committed any crimes.

too late
the hush money payoffs are felonies

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/08/18 at 13:56:40

No they aren't.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/09/18 at 04:47:11

you sir are mistaken

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/09/18 at 06:28:49


you sir are mistaken No, I am not. I don't know where you get your information from, but you should consider new sources.

Hush money payments are completely legal. They happen every day. I can pay you to be quiet about an incident between us and there's nothing illegal about that. (And the incident doesn't have to be a legal action, but that brings a few other variables into play.) We can settle a lawsuit and the terms state any settlement money paid is forfeited if you speak meaning you accepted hush money and if you talk, you have to pay it back.

Imagine a situation where a campaign rents equipment for an event and then through some mixup, doesn't pay the bill. Some lower level supporter thinks he's doing the right thing by complaining the chairs weren't soft enough or something and holds back half the fee. The campaign manager can step in, pay the bill in full and add a little extra with the understanding the rental company won't speak about the situation because it would be embarrassing to the candidate. That's completely legal.

Within the context of a campaign, things get a little more complicated but the principal remains. However, with the Trump situation, two very important factors. One; Trump self-funded his campaign. Remember John Edwards from NC? He accepted donations from a couple of rich supporters and used that to pay his mistress's and child's expenses. He was put on trial and acquitted despite the fact he used campaign money, not his own.

The second big factor is the act itself was not illegal. It's not illegal to screw and then pay someone later not to tell.

Now, all this doesn't mean Trump won't or couldn't be indicted. A prosecutor could decide to indict for political purposes knowing full well there is zero chance of a legal violation. That happens all the time in an effort to hopefully get someone to talk.

If that happened, the TDS infected among us would be giddy for weeks, months or years until the trial (assuming the charges weren't dropped later) but ultimately, there'll be no conviction because there was no crime.  

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by Serowbot on 12/09/18 at 07:32:38

It's a crime.
"Federal law requires that any payments made "for the purposes of influencing" an election must be reported in campaign finance disclosures. The court filing Friday makes clear that the payments were made to benefit Trump politically."

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/09/18 at 10:40:35

No.
Again two points. 1) hush money in and of itself is not illegal. 2) as I said, campaigns bring a new element into it, under that broad of an  interpretation, you would be prosecuting every campaign.

That  doesn't mean a prosecutor won't file charged against Trump.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/09/18 at 10:54:27

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/making-disbursements/personal-use/

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/09/18 at 14:05:07

unindicted co-conspirator (remember tricky I'm not a crook dickey?)
violating campaign laws then the cover up
bank fraud, tax fraud, possible
1974 all over again
more to come

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/18 at 15:23:31

No reasonable prosecutor would file against Trump.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by oldNslow on 12/09/18 at 17:05:59


7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 wrote:
No reasonable prosecutor would file against Trump.


No shortage of unreasonable prosecutors though. Prosecutors that have access to almost limitless financial resources, because they of course are spending our money, money extorted from us in the form of taxes, and there are no consequences to them if they ultimately loose. Even Trump isn't rich enough to counter that, and he will have to finance his own defense. Just like Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, etc. etc.

This whole clusterf*ck has nothing whatever to do with what is legal anyway. It is entirely a political exercise.

If this cabal manages to Fu*k Trump, and they likely will, they will have managed to fu*k the rest of us too, regardless of ideology or political affiliation.

All the folks gleefully and breathlessly waiting for this one mans demise won't be so cheerful when they realise that they are in  line for the same kind of screwing. Or maybe they'll just bend over and enjoy it.


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/09/18 at 17:15:41

impeachment while in office maybe
they cannot prosecute if ever till he is out of office

to call HIS actions a "political exercise" by the cabal reveals the brain washing he has managed on otherwise reasonable Americans

RMN denied and blamed everyone but himself up to the very end
then resigned before impeachment and good old Jerry gave him a blanket pardon

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/09/18 at 17:26:08


734D4C40524E4F210 wrote:
[quote author=7F6066617C7B4A7A4A72606C27150 link=1544235618/0#12 date=1544397811]No reasonable prosecutor would file against Trump.


No shortage of unreasonable prosecutors though. Prosecutors that have access to almost limitless financial resources, because they of course are spending our money, money extorted from us in the form of taxes, and there are no consequences to them if they ultimately loose. Even Trump isn't rich enough to counter that, and he will have to finance his own defense. Just like Manafort, Flynn, Cohen, etc. etc.

This whole clusterf*ck has nothing whatever to do with what is legal anyway. It is entirely a political exercise.

If this cabal manages to Fu*k Trump, and they likely will, they will have managed to fu*k the rest of us too, regardless of ideology or political affiliation.

All the folks gleefully and breathlessly waiting for this one mans demise won't be so cheerful when they realise that they are in  line for the same kind of screwing. Or maybe they'll just bend over and enjoy it.

[/quote]

It's really nice to see others who get it.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/10/18 at 05:27:30



It's really nice to see others who get it.
[/quote]


you are not alone
sadly the obtuse are everywhere

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/10/18 at 05:32:19

Yes they are everywhere. I'm constantly reminded there are at least 63 million....

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/10/18 at 12:18:04

On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign, including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate and supporter of Individual-1. During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories -each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by Serowbot on 12/10/18 at 13:51:16


4F515E5F524F54493B0 wrote:
On approximately June 16, 2015, Individual-1, for whom Cohen worked at the time, began an ultimately successful campaign for President of the United States. Cohen had no formal title with the campaign, but had a campaign email address, and, at various times advised the campaign, including on matters of interest to the press. Cohen also made media appearances as a surrogate and supporter of Individual-1. During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories -each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election.



Ivanka and Jr?.....Mebbe... 8-)

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/10/18 at 14:20:41

Did either of you read the link to the FEC I posted? Did either one of you know the name Donald Trump before he was a declared Presidential candidate? Do either of you understand what you posted represents an opinion by prosecutor?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/10/18 at 14:22:48


4A787F6E69786F507C6F761D0 wrote:
Did either of you read the link to the FEC I posted? Did either one of you know the name Donald Trump before he was a declared Presidential candidate? Do either of you understand what you posted represents an opinion by prosecutor?


Yes, yes and yes.

But you go right ahead and defend this orange moron to the end.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/10/18 at 15:50:29

Apparently you did not.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/10/18 at 18:07:41


4E7C7B6A6D7C6B54786B72190 wrote:
Apparently you did not.



No, I did.

Sorry you don't like it, but IDGAF.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/11/18 at 06:01:18

There will be no indictment of a sitting President and certainly that won't be tested on weak campaign finance charges that are routinely ignored.

Since the Russian collusion dream is fading fast, that leaves impeachment for paying hush money for sex, something many politicians have done themselves.  With only a simple majority needed, its possible the Dems could do that but Trump would never be convicted in a Senate trial so the whole thing will be meaningless other than to harm Trump's chances in 2020. And I'm not 100% convinced a majority of the House would vote to impeach.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/18 at 06:34:10


7E4C4B5A5D4C5B64485B42290 wrote:
There will be no indictment of a sitting President and certainly that won't be tested on weak campaign finance charges that are routinely ignored.

Since the Russian collusion dream is fading fast,

"fading fast"?  Really?
http://www.axios.com/trump-russia-mueller-investigation-37608752-bef7-4b25-a7dd-89e3032bec7e.html

I'd say that it's picking up steam.

that leaves impeachment for paying hush money for sex, something many politicians have done themselves.  

Again, really?  And how many did it with campaign money?  How many of them got caught lying about it multiple times?

With only a simple majority needed, its possible the Dems could do that but Trump would never be convicted in a Senate trial so the whole thing will be meaningless other than to harm Trump's chances in 2020.

The dems aren't really doing much at all.  Seriously mark, just read trump's twitter feed.  He's doing this all to himself.  I don't know why you refuse to see that.

And I'm not 100% convinced a majority of the House would vote to impeach.


You keep believing what you wish.  

I have a prediction - you are going to loathe 2019 and what it will do to your president trump.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/11/18 at 09:20:02

Just because your side manages to destroy Trump or what he's accomplished doesn't mean it's right or good. Your goals are wrong. We are where we are because both
Sides have screwed America.
Trump is trying to give YOU back the America we were screwed out of.
You idiotic social engineering clowns are wrecking America.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/18 at 09:50:13


736C6A6D70774676467E6C602B190 wrote:
Just because your side manages to destroy Trump or what he's accomplished doesn't mean it's right or good.

Again, it's not "my side".  The man is incompetent.  He couldn't draft a bill if his life depended on it.  Look at his twitter feed.  It shows how moronic he truly is.  This is solely on his shoulders.

You want to say that the economy is doing well - fine.  It is, to some degree.  But it has zero to do with trump.

The only thing trump is doing is profiting off the office of president.  That's it.  This is only a publicity blitz for him - nothing more.   When you have a cabinet and staff like he does - in such disarray, it's not a coincidence.  It show his lack of leadership.

Your goals are wrong. We are where we are because both
Sides have screwed America.

HA!  Well at the moment jog, we're getting a severe pounding in the a$$ by the conservatives.

Trump is trying to give YOU back the America we were screwed out of.
You idiotic social engineering clowns are wrecking America.


LOL - "social engineering clowns"?  Tell you what jog - just say thank you for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, clean water, cops, fire-fighters, interstate highways, public schools, ending segregation and everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/11/18 at 10:28:49


3F212E2F223F24394B0 wrote:
just say thank you for ... ...  everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just can't stop Lying can you.

The total LACK of complicate information.
Is a LIE.

I don't get paid to teach you, the FACTS.
But here is one little freebee.

S.S. was/is FORCED,  Because it was/is a FORCED way to increase the amount one could borrow against.
Their was NO, option, to do a saving account, instead of SS.
(Yes Virginia, one could/can do a extra one, but one could/can, NOT replace the, FORCED SS one)
One could be added,  but Nothing could replace the, FORCED, SS saving account.  
Which now, is dwindling, NOT, because more people are retiring.
But because more people, who never paid in, 'one cent' are getting huge amounts.






Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/18 at 10:41:47


6C4F725153484F46210 wrote:
[quote author=3F212E2F223F24394B0 link=1544235618/15#27 date=1544550613] just say thank you for ... ...  everything else liberals have given you and be on your way, m'kay?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just can't stop Lying can you.

The total LACK of complicate information. What is "complicate information"?  Is it complicated to you?  Is it not complicated enough for you?  Do you want me to include more complicated information?  LOL - hey there mn, learn how to spell and use words, huh?
Aren't you tired of looking foolish?
Is a LIE.

I don't get paid to teach you, the FACTS.
But here is one little freebee.

S.S. was/is FORCED,  Because it was/is a FORCED way to increase the amount one could borrow against.
Their was NO, option, to do a saving account, instead of SS.
(Yes Virginia, one could/can do a extra one, but one could/can, NOT replace the, FORCED SS one)
One could be added,  but Nothing could replace the, FORCED, SS saving account.  
Which now, is dwindling, NOT, because more people are retiring.
But because more people, who never paid in, 'one cent' are getting huge amounts.

Do you have any proof of that?  I don't think you do.

I also don't think you don't know how it works, do you?  If you never paid into Social Security, you don't get Social Security - unless you're married and your spouse did.





[/quote]

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/11/18 at 10:46:06


455B545558455E43310 wrote:

I also don't think you don't know how it works, do you?  If you never paid into Social Security, you don't get Social Security

What was that,
YOU,
Said ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/18 at 10:57:37


75566B484A51565F380 wrote:
[quote author=455B545558455E43310 link=1544235618/15#29 date=1544553707]
I also don't think you don't know how it works, do you?  If you never paid into Social Security, you don't get Social Security

What was that,
YOU,
Said ?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."

[/quote]

Hey mn - maybe you should use more laughing emojis, huh?  

Anyway, I guess I have to school you again....

Social Security is an earned benefit. In order to collect a retirement or disability benefit, a worker must pay into the system for at least 10 years. In some cases, nonworking family members, such as a spouse, may be eligible for benefits based on the worker’s record. Tough rules in place assure that only citizens and legal residents who have met the 10-year qualification can collect retirement benefits.

Published October 10, 2018

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/11/18 at 11:08:09


5E404F4E435E45582A0 wrote:
 Hey mn - maybe you should use more laughing emojis, huh?  

Rather Fun, arn't they.

Anyway, I guess I have to school you again....

GEE:
“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."

To actually look thing up, and discover the TRUTH.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
"...you should use more laughing emojis..."

See how FUN they are !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/11/18 at 11:11:37


53704D6E6C7770791E0 wrote:
[quote author=5E404F4E435E45582A0 link=1544235618/30#31 date=1544554657]  Hey mn - maybe you should use more laughing emojis, huh?  

Rather Fun, arn't they.

Anyway, I guess I have to school you again....

GEE:
“Maybe if you weren’t so lazy, you could do the research yourself"
"Your TO Lazy, To  Look It Up Yourself'
“Don’t be so obviously lazy,”
"Maybe if you weren’t so lazy"
“OK lazy... "
“Spell it out next time - don't be so lazy."
“Are you now too lazy to look back "
“OK, be lazy."
“you seem to be as lazy as you are sad..."

To actually look thing up, and discover the TRUTH.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
"...you should use more laughing emojis..."

See how FUN they are !

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
[/quote]


So, did any of that sink in? (probably not)

Do you now know how Social Security works? (probably not)

Do you now know that unless you're married to someone who has payed into SS, that you can't draw SS if you never paid into it? (probably not)


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by Eegore on 12/11/18 at 11:50:18

"Which now, is dwindling, NOT, because more people are retiring.
But because more people, who never paid in, 'one cent' are getting huge amounts."


 Is there a reference for this?

 Are you referring to SSI and not SS?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/18 at 10:35:31

"We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," Letitia James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected New York Attorney General last month.

And this is why any Supreme Court would rule Presidents cannot be indicted while in office. Rouge, partisan Prosecutors could effectively shut the executive branch down with false indictments. Impeach, convict in Senate trial, removed from office first.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/18 at 11:38:34


506265747362754A66756C070 wrote:
"We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," Letitia James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected New York Attorney General last month.

And this is why any Supreme Court would rule Presidents cannot be indicted while in office. Rouge, partisan Prosecutors could effectively shut the executive branch down with false indictments. Impeach, convict in Senate trial, removed from office first.


So, I take it you were completely against ken starr?


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/18 at 14:51:41

No. There's very little in common between the two examples.

Ken Star did write a memo about indicting a sitting President, but he was a special prosecutor assigned to investigate, not a partisan state district attorney.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/18 at 15:24:03


1B292E3F38293E012D3E274C0 wrote:
No. There's very little in common between the two examples.

LMAO - what????  "Little in common"????

Ken Star did write a memo about indicting a sitting President, but he was a special prosecutor assigned to investigate, not a partisan state district attorney.


Seriously, now I can see why you love ann coulter!
;D

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/18 at 15:34:42

Laugh your dumb a$$ off all you want. It's a true statement. You're incapable of offering any serious rebuttals so you pretend to laugh.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by Serowbot on 12/12/18 at 15:45:58

When Trump gets booted out in 2020, he's in a world of legal hurt.

Hope Cohen saves him a bunk.  :-?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/12/18 at 15:59:08


5244534E56434E55210 wrote:
When Trump gets booted out in 2020, he's in a world of legal hurt.

Hope Cohen saves him a bunk.  :-?



they can share one.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/18 at 16:01:18


576562737465724D61726B000 wrote:
Laugh your dumb a$$ off all you want. It's a true statement. You're incapable of offering any serious rebuttals so you pretend to laugh.


Keep up the name calling mark - it shows your desperation.

But I'll be happy to debate this.

The fact is there are more similarities between ken starr and Letitia James than there are differences.

Of course, there is one exception...

Letitia James is merely upholding the law.  ken starr just hated the Clintons...

So there's that.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/12/18 at 16:31:46

Yea, that’s about your level of comprehension.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/18 at 17:00:27


655750414657407F534059320 wrote:
Yea, that’s about your level of comprehension.


Wow!

Ripping retort!

And you're here telling me that I'm incapable of any serious rebuttals.

It's too easy!!

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/18 at 17:06:03


243A353439243F22500 wrote:
And you're here telling me that I'm incapable of any serious rebuttals.

When you can only say one word, which is not even remotely connected with the post.
Ah YEA, YOU, are,  incapable of any serious rebuttals.
LOLOL

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/12/18 at 17:12:15


6A497457554E4940270 wrote:
[quote author=243A353439243F22500 link=1544235618/30#44 date=1544662827]
And you're here telling me that I'm incapable of any serious rebuttals.

When you can only say one word, which is not even remotely connected with the post.
Ah YEA, YOU, are,  incapable of any serious rebuttals.
LOLOL[/quote]

Have you ever looked in a mirror mn?

Have you ever read any of your own posts?

Seriously, I think you must suffer from something that limits your vision and distorts reality.

Who are you to tell anyone how to rebut or respond to any post??

You're incapable of any intelligent conversation.  You lie.  You mock.  You name call.  You obfuscate.  You do everything but debate.

You're becoming a bore.


Addition---

I joke about how you represent all the conservatives on this board.  And for the most part, I was only joking.  What I'm truly surprised at is that they seem to embrace you.

I guess it's no wonder we have trump as a president.  If anyone can consider you a positive role within a group, well - hell, they deserve you -  and him!

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/12/18 at 17:24:09


677976777A677C61130 wrote:
 You're becoming a bore.

Well as we ALL know:


3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
As far as who I let in my house.  I'm a great judge of character.

YOU, are the most Perfect, Judge of ...

BUT, YOU are, STILL, Raciest, for  'Judging',
those who may come in to, YOUR House.


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/12/18 at 21:05:20

He's a troll.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by WebsterMark on 12/13/18 at 04:46:35

I'm done with the little f.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 06:05:25


6A497457554E4940270 wrote:
[quote author=677976777A677C61130 link=1544235618/45#46 date=1544663535]  You're becoming a bore.

Well as we ALL know:


3C222D2C213C273A480 wrote:
As far as who I let in my house.  I'm a great judge of character.

YOU, are the most Perfect, Judge of ...

BUT, YOU are, STILL, Raciest, for  'Judging',
those who may come in to, YOUR House.
[/quote]

No, mn, I'm not.  If you judge someone, that doesn't automatically make you racist.  Why the hell would you think that?

Do you even know what the word "racist" means?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 06:05:59


754740515647506F435049220 wrote:
I'm done with the little f.



Oh... boo hoo.

Don't like the truth, huh?

STBY.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 06:06:45


554A4C4B5651605060584A460D3F0 wrote:
He's a troll.


Ha!  Just feeding you cons a little of your own medicine.

It's not my fault that trump is a national embarrassment.  You voted for him, not me.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 07:47:02


495758595449524F3D0 wrote:
 If you judge someone, that doesn't automatically make you racist.

REALLY ??????????
WOW.
So all those, Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialists, are WRONG.
When they said, ‘You are Raciest’.
About people that, ‘Judged’, people,
that were/are, among Illegal’s and Refugees.

When they, ‘Judged’ them to be, Killers, Thief’s. Terrorists, or just plain LAZY ?

WOW, a  Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialistic, Troll,
believes, all those, Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialists, are WRONG.
When they said, ‘You are Raciest’.
Just because they, 'Judged', someone.


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 08:33:33


597A4764667D7A73140 wrote:
[quote author=495758595449524F3D0 link=1544235618/45#50 date=1544709925]  If you judge someone, that doesn't automatically make you racist.

REALLY ??????????
WOW.

Yes, really.

So all those, Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialists, are WRONG.
When they said, ‘You are Raciest’.
About people that, ‘Judged’, people,
that were/are, among Illegal’s and Refugees.

It depends on why and how you judge them.  If you judge them simply based on their nationality, then yes, that's racist.

When they, ‘Judged’ them to be, Killers, Thief’s. Terrorists, or just plain LAZY ?

How can you make those judgements without vetting?  When you look at someone, do you know whether or not they're a killer, a thief or lazy?

WOW, a  Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialistic, Troll,
believes, all those, Ultra Liberal, Progressive Socialists, are WRONG.
When they said, ‘You are Raciest’. (will you ever learn to spell?)
Just because they, 'Judged', someone.
[/quote]

You have no connection to reality.  You obfuscate because you can't have a civil debate, or even conversation.

No worries.  I'll continue to point it out to you.  You seem to like being schooled by me.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 09:47:24


5A444B4A475A415C2E0 wrote:
How can you make those judgements without vetting?

Please tell us all how you, vet/judge people.


Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 10:56:00


52714C6F6D7671781F0 wrote:
[quote author=5A444B4A475A415C2E0 link=1544235618/45#54 date=1544718813]How can you make those judgements without vetting?

Please tell us all how you, vet/judge people.
[/quote]

A number of factors.  That's the idea, it's not just one single thing.  I don't judge a person from just their looks alone.

If a stranger came to my door and asked to come in, the first thing I'd do is ask "why?".  Now, if a stranger came to my door that I could see was physically hurt I wouldn't question them about allowing them in my house, I'd offer to help and invite them in.

You see mn, there are so many different variables to situations and to people that you can't categorize all as "one way" or "another".

That's what vetting is all about.

I sincerely doubt that you understand this concept.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 11:14:50


233D32333E233825570 wrote:
If a stranger came to my door and asked to come in, the first thing I'd do is ask "why?".  

Glad you answered.
So just to be clear, as you said: If a stranger came to my door and asked to come in, the first thing I'd do is ask "why?"

If the answer to, 'why', was. 'I need to use your phone to call the police to report a crime',
you would let him in, right !

So a week later, after the neighbors have reported the stink, the police  come, and cart away your dead badly beaten body.

Then all the neighbors can say: "BUT, it was NOT  Raciest"

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 11:18:40


45665B787A61666F080 wrote:
[quote author=233D32333E233825570 link=1544235618/45#56 date=1544727360]
If a stranger came to my door and asked to come in, the first thing I'd do is ask "why?".  

Glad you answered.
So just to be clear, as you said: If a stranger came to my door and asked to come in, the first thing I'd do is ask "why?"

If the answer to, 'why', was. 'I need to use your phone to call the police to report a crime',
you would let him in, right !

No.  That'd be stupid.  I have a cell phone, I don't even have a landline.

So a week later, after the neighbors have reported the stink, the police  come, and cart away your dead badly beaten body.

Sorry mn, you're wrong.  Not everyone is as stupid as you think they are.

Then all the neighbors can say: "BUT, it was NOT  Raciest"

Please learn how to spell, it makes you look stupid.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[/quote]

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by LostArtist on 12/13/18 at 15:36:51

it's not a look

mn springs and most conservatives don't have the imagination or the connection to today's reality to actually understand the thousands of different reasons for a huge variety of things, to them, it's all black and white, quick simple, simpleminded, close-minded judgements.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/13/18 at 17:59:31


6F4C50576251574A5057230 wrote:
mn springs and most conservatives don't have the imagination or the connection to today's reality to actually understand the thousands of different reasons

So, a Government, ’Trump’, says, “Vet these people"
A Government, ’Trump”, says, "Do everything you can”
A Government, ‘Trump’, says, “Do everything to the last detail”

YOU, say it is wrong, You say it is Racist.

Cheese and Rice,  PICK ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!



Title: Re: we shall see
Post by T And T Garage on 12/13/18 at 21:08:25


03201D3E3C2720294E0 wrote:
[quote author=6F4C50576251574A5057230 link=1544235618/45#59 date=1544744211]mn springs and most conservatives don't have the imagination or the connection to today's reality to actually understand the thousands of different reasons

So, a Government, ’Trump’, says, “Vet these people"
A Government, ’Trump”, says, "Do everything you can”
A Government, ‘Trump’, says, “Do everything to the last detail”

YOU, say it is wrong, You say it is Racist.

Cheese and Rice,  PICK ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!


[/quote]

OK mn - show us the proof of where we said it was racist.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/14/18 at 02:18:07

Demanding border security is racist.
Prove we said it.

You're such a piece of work.
Everyone who wants to control immigration is racist, according to you lefties.
Note your responses to my posts.
You're such a troll.

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/16/18 at 14:07:58

back on topic

odds are 4/5 he gets impeached
56% probability he's going down

even money 50% he doesn't

as more rats jump ship
and our tweety in chief keeps lying

tweetygate?

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by LostArtist on 12/17/18 at 12:45:36


4E6D5073716A6D64030 wrote:
[quote author=6F4C50576251574A5057230 link=1544235618/45#59 date=1544744211]mn springs and most conservatives don't have the imagination or the connection to today's reality to actually understand the thousands of different reasons

So, a Government, ’Trump’, says, “Vet these people"
A Government, ’Trump”, says, "Do everything you can”
A Government, ‘Trump’, says, “Do everything to the last detail”

YOU, say it is wrong, You say it is Racist.

Cheese and Rice,  PICK ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!


[/quote]


where'd I say it was racist????  I said it's  because your STOOOOPIIIIIIDDDDDD!!!

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 12/17/18 at 19:40:23


170B160E130611000F0C0D06630 wrote:
back on topic

odds are 4/5 he gets impeached
56% probability he's going down

even money 50% he doesn't

as more rats jump ship
and our tweety in chief keeps lying

tweetygate?

I remember when it was almost 100% Trump would not be the candidate.
Would not be elected.
And you have always been Wrong..

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/18/18 at 03:12:45


716E686F72754474447C6E62291B0 wrote:
[quote author=170B160E130611000F0C0D06630 link=1544235618/60#63 date=1544998078]back on topic

odds are 4/5 he gets impeached
56% probability he's going down

even money 50% he doesn't

as more rats jump ship
and our tweety in chief keeps lying

tweetygate?

I remember when it was almost 100% Trump would not be the candidate.
Would not be elected.
And you have always been Wrong..
[/quote]
 
these are betting odds not a poll




Title: Re: we shall see
Post by thumperclone on 12/18/18 at 15:24:39

17 investigations and counting

where there's smoke there's fire

Title: Re: we shall see
Post by MnSpring on 12/19/18 at 10:50:48


263A273F223720313E3D3C37520 wrote:
odds are 4/5 he gets impeached
56% probability he's going down

Who is giving those odds ?
Is it some place in Vegas ?

I know 30 + years ago, I played a Dollar on a bet in Vegas, that the Vikings would win the Superbowl.  It basically was a waste of a dollar, and I knew it at the time. Yet if, IF, they did, I think that 1 dollar would have been worth $1,235.50 LOL.

Just like I buy one ticket for the big lotto once or twice a year.
One time the Gal behind the counter, (who knows me) said:
"... what will you do, if you win"
I Told her:
"I will buy a newspaper, and tell the Truth"

So getting back to your stated odds, who is offering them ?
Because I want to bet, on the other side of them !









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