justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 12:12:15:

T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 12:46:51:

 Fear of the "invasion" on our southern border.  Fear of the Muslims "taking over".  Fear of the "big bad gubment" coming to take all your guns.  Fear of the "war on Christmas".  Fear of everything...

What about all those things,
that  Cenk Uygur, TELLS YOU,
to fear ?

T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 13:09:03:

What things?  Be specific.  

LOL, he is YOUR,  Savior/Mentor/Idol/Hero.
Not mine.

Besides I am not going to be a member,
and PAY him,
to go on his web page, and read/see,
his drivel.

"Feeling that, at any time, you'll be shot at or victimized in some way is no way to live.

So the argument that someone owns guns for the express purpose of protecting themselves is (to me) silly."

 That makes more sense although I'm not sure I agree entirely.  I agree that feeling you may be victimized or shot is no way to live, but during my time in CA that was a normal, uncontrollable way of life for some people in the inner cities.  Unfortunate, but a measurable, factual risk.

 My mother was murdered in her home, it makes sense to me that even though she wasn't a hunter, a sport shooter, or even interested in guns that if she would have survived that she would today own a firearm for the express purpose of self protection.  

 I will however acknowledge that being killed within one's home is a very low risk that is most-likely going to get lower as security tech, like cellphone linked alarm/camera systems become more available to middle and lower class incomes.  

 Going back to what I said before about some of this outlook may depend on our line of work.  On the side I help volunteers learn how to be active assailants in civilian self defense programs.  As part of that preparation we listen to a 911 call of a woman being actively raped.  In that call she says she is on the phone with 911 and that police are on the way.  The assailant states clearly "I don't care." and proceeds to sexually assault her while she screams and begs him to stop.  He completes the assault and leaves before law enforcement arrive.

 Not one person including law enforcement staff that partake in this training exercise suggest she use a phone over a gun, but that's because of our line of work.  Due to consistent exposure to criminal behavior and victims of violence I think those people would lean more towards firearms as protection.

MnSpring wrote on 11/15/18 at 13:32:23:



Oh, so then you're lying about him saying that?

I see.  I should have known.

What I am calling for are tighter restrictions at the federal level and holding gun manufacturers to a higher standard.

Ohhh, do expand on that.
After being educated on the fact that manufacturers sell to licensed dealers, what more do you want?
Pretty sure you have been asked this before.
Like
Describe the wonderful society that America will be when lefties are satisfied with the
Change they demand.

Shall I call
Krikkits now or wait?

5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.