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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #120 - 11/16/18 at 09:16:48
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:12:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 07:51:18:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:22:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:15:09:
5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.



OK lazy...

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/11/30/ruben-gall...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/our-impact/campaigns/keep-crime-guns-off-our-str...

Sadly, the Tiahrt Amendment now prevents this type of investigation...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/23/AR20101023029...


Doesn't that point out a problem with government oversight?
They are responsible for licensing the dealers and background checks.
After all,  they have the data and the power to act upon it.


No.  This was basically an amendment crafted by the NRA.


How is that hampering government oversight?
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #121 - 11/16/18 at 09:42:51
 
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:16:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:12:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 07:51:18:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:22:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:15:09:
5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.



OK lazy...

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/11/30/ruben-gall...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/our-impact/campaigns/keep-crime-guns-off-our-str...

Sadly, the Tiahrt Amendment now prevents this type of investigation...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/23/AR20101023029...


Doesn't that point out a problem with government oversight?
They are responsible for licensing the dealers and background checks.
After all,  they have the data and the power to act upon it.


No.  This was basically an amendment crafted by the NRA.


How is that hampering government oversight?


I never said it hampered government oversight.  I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #122 - 11/16/18 at 09:54:23
 
never said it hampered government oversight.  I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

Obama didn't veto that?
Gee, why not?
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #123 - 11/16/18 at 12:06:40
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:42:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:16:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:12:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 07:51:18:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:22:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:15:09:
5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.



OK lazy...

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/11/30/ruben-gall...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/our-impact/campaigns/keep-crime-guns-off-our-str...

Sadly, the Tiahrt Amendment now prevents this type of investigation...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/23/AR20101023029...


Doesn't that point out a problem with government oversight?
They are responsible for licensing the dealers and background checks.
After all,  they have the data and the power to act upon it.


No.  This was basically an amendment crafted by the NRA.


How is that hampering government oversight?


I never said it hampered government oversight.  I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

You mean you think the joe blow should be able to trace any weapon owned by anyone for any reason?
Would that be like anyone requesting the home address of any vehicle?
Why would you allow that?
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #124 - 11/16/18 at 12:38:58
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:42:51:
 I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

To stop CRAP like this.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gun-map/
(From the UL’s  Favorite UL sight)

And this:
The editor of the New York newspaper that created a furor by publishing the names and addresses of gun-permit owners suddenly is out of a job.
According to the Rockland Times, a competitor to the Gannett-owned Rockland County Journal News, editor Caryn McBride is among the casualties of a recent purge at the Journal News.

The report said 17 journalists were among a total of 26 staff members at the Journal News who were let go.

McBride and other executives then decided to hire armed guards to protect their property, the Times reported, “causing an uproar due to the perceived hypocrisy of the avowed anti-gun editors hiring gun-toting men.”
Two months ago, the White Plains-based newspaper admitted that the information it published was badly outdated. The paper acknowledged many people had a dot on their house, indicating there was a gun permit at that address, even though they didn’t own a gun.

The responses to the publication included the publication of a map showing “Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?” The Times said a Clarkstown police report confirmed that armed security guards were hired for the Journal News.

The Times also reported that shortly after the publication of the map, authorities said burglars entered the home of one of the gun owners identified by the newspaper, and a gun safe that was on the premises was damaged in a robbery attempt.


https://www.wnd.com/2013/08/bang-editor-fired-after-publishing-gun-owner-map/

And this  UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflake.
"Below is a 446-page list of every licensed gun owner in New York City. I obtained it from the NYPD two-and-a-half years ago via a Freedom of Information Law request.”
“…could see the name and address of each pistol or revolver permit holder. Accompanying text states that inclusion does not necessarily mean that an individual owns a weapon, but had obtained a license…”


Again the the he/she called tt, that cannot read or comprehend.
Read this again, (or have someone read it to you)
These names do not necessarily mean that an individual owns a gun, but just had obtained a license.
Today, those are, state  records, which you can get, if you have a ’taint’ buddy that gives them to you.

And now all the Panty in a bunch people will yell,
“They Have The ‘Right’ to know”
Perfect examples of,  I can, You can’t.
(What,,,, the UL, Panty in a bunch crowd,
Forgot, about MY  ‘rights’)

HAY  tt, YOU own a gun,
(at least you have said so many times, or where you Lying again)
So, post your name, address, age, gender, etc.etc.etc !
No Problem, Right !
Or is this just another,
YOU can I  can’t
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

So for all the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes.
The ’tracking’ of firearms, by LEO/etc. is Still the same as it was in 1968.
What has changed is,
the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes,
are NOT allowed to harass law abiding Citizens !


Another example of the,
UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes,
'thinking'. they will make something better.
When in fact they SHUT OUT scientific study of a subject.
Because, they are, (supposedly), 'thinking',
about how to make things better.

It's the same as a Condo community.
Where NO BBQ's (open fires) are allowed within 25 feet of a building, and only in the back yard area.
Sounds Good, however the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes, could not see, from the building to the property line, in the back, was 24 feet.

And that is basically what the, 'taints' have been doing to this Country, and want to do more.






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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #125 - 11/16/18 at 12:50:36
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/16/18 at 12:38:58:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:42:51:
 I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

To stop CRAP like this.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gun-map/
(From the UL’s  Favorite UL sight)

And this:
The editor of the New York newspaper that created a furor by publishing the names and addresses of gun-permit owners suddenly is out of a job.
According to the Rockland Times, a competitor to the Gannett-owned Rockland County Journal News, editor Caryn McBride is among the casualties of a recent purge at the Journal News.

The report said 17 journalists were among a total of 26 staff members at the Journal News who were let go.

McBride and other executives then decided to hire armed guards to protect their property, the Times reported, “causing an uproar due to the perceived hypocrisy of the avowed anti-gun editors hiring gun-toting men.”
Two months ago, the White Plains-based newspaper admitted that the information it published was badly outdated. The paper acknowledged many people had a dot on their house, indicating there was a gun permit at that address, even though they didn’t own a gun.

The responses to the publication included the publication of a map showing “Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?” The Times said a Clarkstown police report confirmed that armed security guards were hired for the Journal News.

The Times also reported that shortly after the publication of the map, authorities said burglars entered the home of one of the gun owners identified by the newspaper, and a gun safe that was on the premises was damaged in a robbery attempt.


https://www.wnd.com/2013/08/bang-editor-fired-after-publishing-gun-owner-map/

And this  UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflake.
"Below is a 446-page list of every licensed gun owner in New York City. I obtained it from the NYPD two-and-a-half years ago via a Freedom of Information Law request.”
“…could see the name and address of each pistol or revolver permit holder. Accompanying text states that inclusion does not necessarily mean that an individual owns a weapon, but had obtained a license…”


Again the the he/she called tt, that cannot read or comprehend.
Read this again, (or have someone read it to you)
These names do not necessarily mean that an individual owns a gun, but just had obtained a license.
Today, those are, state  records, which you can get, if you have a ’taint’ buddy that gives them to you.

And now all the Panty in a bunch people will yell,
“They Have The ‘Right’ to know”
Perfect examples of,  I can, You can’t.
(What,,,, the UL, Panty in a bunch crowd,
Forgot, about MY  ‘rights’)

HAY  tt, YOU own a gun,
(at least you have said so many times, or where you Lying again)
So, post your name, address, age, gender, etc.etc.etc !
No Problem, Right !
Or is this just another,
YOU can I  can’t
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

So for all the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes.
The ’tracking’ of firearms, by LEO/etc. is Still the same as it was in 1968.
What has changed is,
the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes,
are NOT allowed to harass law abiding Citizens !


Another example of the,
UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes,
'thinking'. they will make something better.
When in fact they SHUT OUT scientific study of a subject.
Because, they are, (supposedly), 'thinking',
about how to make things better.

It's the same as a Condo community.
Where NO BBQ's (open fires) are allowed within 25 feet of a building, and only in the back yard area.
Sounds Good, however the UL, Progressive, Panty in a bunch, Fairy Dust Sprinkling Snowflakes, could not see, from the building to the property line, in the back, was 24 feet.

And that is basically what the, 'taints' have been doing to this Country, and want to do more.




Yeah, that's pretty much how I see your inane/insane posts mn.

You're unintentionally funny!

Keep up the great work there little fella!
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #126 - 11/16/18 at 13:46:39
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 12:50:36:
Keep up the great work there little fella!

Thanks, I will.

You don’t know, what I weigh, or how tall I am.
So when you call me, ‘little fella’, it don’t  mater.
You just don’t know.

I have stated my age, many times.
And reading my posts, one could conclude/affirm my age by the content/references/etc in my posts.  
The same as gender.
So keep saying, ‘little fellow’, it, don’t bother me at all.
Because, you simply, Don’t Know !

Yet I see, me, calling you, ‘he/she’
greatly bothers you.

I know you have said your gender is male,
but by your posts/reactions/comments,
and by your constantly Lying in your posts.
(Lying, is eliminating Facts or manipulating Facts, on Purpose)
I simply don’t know what your gender is.
So I will continue calling you, ‘he/she’.

As for, Troll,
Ray Charles could have, seen, that !

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Reply #127 - 11/16/18 at 14:09:25
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/16/18 at 13:46:39:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 12:50:36:
Keep up the great work there little fella!

Thanks, I will.

You don’t know, what I weigh, or how tall I am.
So when you call me, ‘little fella’, it don’t  mater.
You just don’t know.

I have stated my age, many times.
And reading my posts, one could conclude/affirm my age by the content/references/etc in my posts.  
The same as gender.
So keep saying, ‘little fellow’, it, don’t bother me at all.
Because, you simply, Don’t Know !

Yet I see, me, calling you, ‘he/she’
greatly bothers you.

I know you have said your gender is male,
but by your posts/reactions/comments,
and by your constantly Lying in your posts.
(Lying, is eliminating Facts or manipulating Facts, on Purpose)
I simply don’t know what your gender is.
So I will continue calling you, ‘he/she’.

As for, Troll,
Ray Charles could have, seen, that !


mn - feel free to call me anything you'd like.  Call me he/she, call me a snowflake, UL, whatever.  All that does is show everyone what a little, petty boy you are.  Little.  Tiny.  Nothing.

You see, I don't really care what you say.  It all looks like what I posted above - jiberish that you can't quite make sense of.

The funniest thing is though, is that you think it's important.  You think that it actually represents your point of view in a good way.  You think it makes sense!

Unintentionally funny is what you are.

Like I said - you represent the conservatives and republicans on here very well.  I'm sure they're happy you're on their side.

Cheesy

Thanks for making yet another Friday a good one for me!

Keep up the great work!

Oh - and bless your heart.
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Reply #128 - 11/16/18 at 14:14:53
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:09:25:
Thanks for making yet another Friday a good one for me!

Oh, so ya missed this.
Well here ya go I will re-post it for Ya.
As for, Troll,
Ray Charles could have, seen, that !


Now, your turn, you can have the last word.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #129 - 11/16/18 at 14:31:46
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:14:53:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:09:25:
Thanks for making yet another Friday a good one for me!

Oh, so ya missed this.
Well here ya go I will re-post it for Ya.
As for, Troll,
Ray Charles could have, seen, that !


Now, your turn, you can have the last word.




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Reply #130 - 11/16/18 at 14:32:50
 
Gee, I wonder who took down my post of pee wee the first time?

Will it happen again?

Let's see....
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #131 - 11/16/18 at 14:37:15
 
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 12:06:40:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:42:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:16:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:12:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 07:51:18:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:22:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:15:09:
5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.



OK lazy...

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/11/30/ruben-gall...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/our-impact/campaigns/keep-crime-guns-off-our-str...

Sadly, the Tiahrt Amendment now prevents this type of investigation...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/23/AR20101023029...


Doesn't that point out a problem with government oversight?
They are responsible for licensing the dealers and background checks.
After all,  they have the data and the power to act upon it.


No.  This was basically an amendment crafted by the NRA.


How is that hampering government oversight?


I never said it hampered government oversight.  I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

You mean you think the joe blow should be able to trace any weapon owned by anyone for any reason?
Would that be like anyone requesting the home address of any vehicle?
Why would you allow that?

You don't have an answer do you.
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Reply #132 - 11/16/18 at 14:48:31
 
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:37:15:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 12:06:40:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:42:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 09:16:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 08:12:51:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 07:51:18:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:22:35:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/15/18 at 16:15:09:
5% of the licensed resellers provide about 90% of the guns used in crimes.

Show me.



OK lazy...

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/fact-check/2015/11/30/ruben-gall...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/our-impact/campaigns/keep-crime-guns-off-our-str...

Sadly, the Tiahrt Amendment now prevents this type of investigation...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/23/AR20101023029...


Doesn't that point out a problem with government oversight?
They are responsible for licensing the dealers and background checks.
After all,  they have the data and the power to act upon it.


No.  This was basically an amendment crafted by the NRA.


How is that hampering government oversight?


I never said it hampered government oversight.  I stated that studies like the ones I posted can no longer be done because they shut out the public.

You mean you think the joe blow should be able to trace any weapon owned by anyone for any reason?
Would that be like anyone requesting the home address of any vehicle?
Why would you allow that?

You don't have an answer do you.



I do have an answer - my sincerest apologies vers - your comment didn't catch my attention.  Talk to mn about that - maybe put some all caps or bold type up...lol

I'm not talking about anything that granular.  Statistic firms conduct research on cars all the time.  They don't get detailed sales numbers of actual driver's information.

Thanks to the Tiahrt Amendment, the gun industry is now shielded from the public via the ATF from disclosing their sales.  This prevents any ral statistics from being gathered for academic purposes or litigation.

It's a smokescreen brought to you by the nra.

The US has more guns per-capita than any other country on the Planet.  I guess it's silly to think that we should maybe have the toughest oversight...
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Re: Good Guys With Guns
Reply #133 - 11/16/18 at 15:08:48
 
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:48:31:
I do have an answer - my sincerest apologies vers - your comment didn't catch my attention.  Talk to mn about that - maybe put some all caps or bold type up...lol

I'm not talking about anything that granular.  Statistic firms conduct research on cars all the time.  They don't get detailed sales numbers of actual driver's information.

Thanks to the Tiahrt Amendment, the gun industry is now shielded from the public via the ATF from disclosing their sales.  This prevents any ral statistics from being gathered for academic purposes or litigation.

It's a smokescreen brought to you by the nra.

The US has more guns per-capita than any other country on the Planet.  I guess it's silly to think that we should maybe have the toughest oversight...

So you would absolve the g men their responsibility to regulate those licensed dealers who are on the 5% list?
And their responsibility to go after the strawmen?
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Reply #134 - 11/16/18 at 15:13:22
 
verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/18 at 15:08:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 11/16/18 at 14:48:31:
I do have an answer - my sincerest apologies vers - your comment didn't catch my attention.  Talk to mn about that - maybe put some all caps or bold type up...lol

I'm not talking about anything that granular.  Statistic firms conduct research on cars all the time.  They don't get detailed sales numbers of actual driver's information.

Thanks to the Tiahrt Amendment, the gun industry is now shielded from the public via the ATF from disclosing their sales.  This prevents any ral statistics from being gathered for academic purposes or litigation.

It's a smokescreen brought to you by the nra.

The US has more guns per-capita than any other country on the Planet.  I guess it's silly to think that we should maybe have the toughest oversight...

So you would absolve the g men their responsibility to regulate those licensed dealers who are on the 5% list?
And their responsibility to go after the strawmen?


No.  

Ask yourself this vers - How was it "so bad" prior to the Tiahrt Amendment?  The only reason for it is to keep the public eye out.  Again, thanks to the nra.
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