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Reply #45 - 10/17/18 at 05:06:22

Eegore wrote on 10/16/18 at 18:34:10:

This is why people shouldn't push an issue if the proper parameters have not been established.

President Trump states he will pay 1mill to a charity if Warren proves she has Indian heritage, but the comment was too shallow to have enough substance to be pursued as we see now. Nobody established, prior to testing how far back the lineage can go, what percentages etc. As such Trump can say that's not enough proof, and thousands of people get caught up in an argument that never had enough parameter set to be worth talking about.

This is two people trading jabs for political reasons, and I can't see any reason to give the situation any credibility as it was all posturing to begin with.

Trump might be waiting. If Pochontas runs and gets traction, Trump could finish her by making a 1/1024 donation in the middle of the campaign. Look how he wiped out the entire Republican campaign. Little Marco, Low Energy Jeb, Lyin Ted.

Those are perfect nicknames. Words matter. The right words are as effective as a sniper and that's exactly what he did. It's hard to keep hitting homeruns however. Wonder what he'll cme up with for Harris or Booker.

Harris reminds me of Cruella DeVille. Kinda pretty but mean as hell. Booker, not sure. A bug eyed kid comes to mind, wide eyed and in over his head.

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Reply #46 - 10/17/18 at 07:19:08

LostArtist wrote on 10/16/18 at 13:13:52:

got yourself a squaw..... I know you think you're being light hearted and funny, and I'm really not holding it against you but if
you talk like a duck.... or a misogynist or racist.... .... just hoping you walk like a man...

Lost, can you Please answer, why, is is, ’NOT’ alright for WM, to say,
“…got yourself a squaw…”

Yet, it is Perfectly alright, for you to say:
“… you're just supposed to believe them, they are white guys after all, just believe them..."

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Reply #47 - 10/18/18 at 16:21:28

MnSpring wrote on 10/17/18 at 07:19:08:

LostArtist wrote on 10/16/18 at 13:13:52:

got yourself a squaw..... I know you think you're being light hearted and funny, and I'm really not holding it against you but if
you talk like a duck.... or a misogynist or racist.... .... just hoping you walk like a man...

Lost, can you Please answer, why, is is, ’NOT’ alright for WM, to say,
“…got yourself a squaw…”

Yet, it is Perfectly alright, for you to say:
“… you're just supposed to believe them, they are white guys after all, just believe them..."

did you miss where I said: "I know you think you're being light hearted and funny, and I'm really not holding it against you but " LIKE RIGHT INFRONT OF THAT WHOLE THING?? I mean you quoted it in your response here....

but if I have to explain it to you....

the word "squaw" is derogatory, it's a generic description for any Native American woman

from Wiki: "The English word Squaw is an ethnic and sexual slur,[1][2][3] historically used for Indigenous North American women.[4] Contemporary use of the term, especially by non-Natives, is considered offensive, derogatory, misogynist and racist.

so while I wasn't offended and wasn't angry at WM for using it, I was just trying to inform him that that word isn't technically acceptable today.

just a bit of education for you there. YOU"RE WELCOME.

and I'm actually going to have to look up the total context of when I said “… you're just supposed to believe them, they are white guys after all, just believe them..." since you've taken it out of it's context and I honestly don't remember, but that was probably my way of telling WM to maybe check his privilege (NOT CALLING WM racist or misogynist, just helping him realize that, hey, he was giving into confirmation bias and tribalism)

DA MN MN SPRINGS HOT AIR A LOT, you got a hard on for that phrase huh? musta got to you too, maybe though dost protest too much???

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now? Reply #48 - 10/18/18 at 16:59:21 Update..... How about, just plain old LIAR......... This whole episode, and those who promoted, and elevated this insanity, to a point of relevance, must really feel like fools. Game, set, match Keep it real, first, and foremost, then lets TRY and find solutions to REAL issues.
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Reply #49 - 10/18/18 at 17:11:33

raydawg wrote on 10/18/18 at 16:59:21:

Update.....

How about, just plain old LIAR.........

This whole episode, and those who promoted, and elevated this insanity, to a point of relevance, must really feel like fools.

Game, set, match Grin

Keep it real, first, and foremost, then lets TRY and find solutions to REAL issues.

This coming from a guy who told me to -
"Better yet, go on Ebay and buy some of Warrens panties and sniff them until you pass out chief "

You expect anyone to take you seriously ray?

How about you own up to this and apologize?

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now? Reply #50 - 10/18/18 at 17:54:23 Blame me... Blame a article.... Blame, blame, blame. Try owning it. You might be surprised.
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Reply #51 - 10/18/18 at 18:38:46

raydawg wrote on 10/18/18 at 17:54:23:

Blame me...
Blame a article....
Blame, blame, blame.
Try owning it.
You might be surprised.

Um, no ray. The whole "I know you are, but what am I" dodge won't work here.

You're the one that made the wholly inappropriate joke. YOU are the one that has to own it.

Stop being a child.

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Reply #52 - 10/19/18 at 05:51:25

I think part of the problem is that people multiply all ancestral genes as if they have equal genetic contribution to the living person which is entirely not true.

Not every ancestor contributes equally, this has been known since sequencing started. So if one moves up 10 generations and considers every ancestor equally then you get these 1/1024 numbers when in actuality a single ancestor going back just to the last century would provide numbers consistent with the results found in Warren.

Part of the problem is people use the remedial for-profit DNA sequencing models presented by companies like 23andMe etc. that provide simplified algorithms because they pull from a pre-analyzed pool and present to the layman. Real DNA sequencing is considerably more complex to analyze, and with proper examination it shows that Warren doesn't have a lower than average Native American (the DNA compared in her case was not US-based native American due to lack of material) but a higher than average, but its based off of migration pattern DNA and not currently localized.

The Center for Population Biology presents some considerably accurate models:

https://biology.ucdavis.edu/research
https://cpb.ucdavis.edu/

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12850 Gender:	Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now? Reply #53 - 10/19/18 at 06:14:47 Doesn't matter anyway...... Warren got bit by a mosquito yesterday and it sucked all the Indian blood right out of her…
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12850 Gender:	Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now? Reply #54 - 10/19/18 at 06:15:48 This coming from a guy who told me to - "Better yet, go on Ebay and buy some of Warrens panties and sniff them until you pass out chief " I missed that. Good one Ray.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now? Reply #55 - 10/19/18 at 06:18:58 WebsterMark wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:15:48: This coming from a guy who told me to - "Better yet, go on Ebay and buy some of Warrens panties and sniff them until you pass out chief " I missed that. Good one Ray. Yep - pretty much the high point of conservative rhetoric I guess...
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Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now?
Reply #56 - 10/19/18 at 08:33:55

WebsterMark wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:14:47:

Doesn't matter anyway...... Warren got bit by a mosquito yesterday and it sucked all the Indian blood right out of her…

Musta had a snout of Carbon Steel

Which have a carbon content up to 2.1 percent by weight, a yield strength of 260 megapascals (MPa), and a tensile strength of 580 MPa. They score about 6 on the Mohs scale and are extremely impact-resistant.

Lets hope she wasn't in the loo at the time of attack......
Penetrating that rump, might prove fatal to the skeeter, hard azz socialist she is Grin

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Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now?
Reply #57 - 10/19/18 at 08:34:47

T And T Garage wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:18:58:

WebsterMark wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:15:48:

This coming from a guy who told me to -
"Better yet, go on Ebay and buy some of Warrens panties and sniff them until you pass out chief "

I missed that. Good one Ray.

Yep - pretty much the high point of conservative rhetoric I guess...

but we're the immature snowflakes that can't handle criticism or "how it is!" we're just so sensitive!! but we're also violent crazies!!!

ever feel like they are projecting...... you know, like a child

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Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now?
Reply #58 - 10/19/18 at 08:37:48

Eegore wrote on 10/19/18 at 05:51:25:

I think part of the problem is that people multiply all ancestral genes as if they have equal genetic contribution to the living person which is entirely not true.

Not every ancestor contributes equally, this has been known since sequencing started. So if one moves up 10 generations and considers every ancestor equally then you get these 1/1024 numbers when in actuality a single ancestor going back just to the last century would provide numbers consistent with the results found in Warren.

Part of the problem is people use the remedial for-profit DNA sequencing models presented by companies like 23andMe etc. that provide simplified algorithms because they pull from a pre-analyzed pool and present to the layman. Real DNA sequencing is considerably more complex to analyze, and with proper examination it shows that Warren doesn't have a lower than average Native American (the DNA compared in her case was not US-based native American due to lack of material) but a higher than average, but its based off of migration pattern DNA and not currently localized.

The Center for Population Biology presents some considerably accurate models:

https://biology.ucdavis.edu/research
https://cpb.ucdavis.edu/

Once again, the voice of reason comes from Eegore.

Thanks!

Too bad (most of) the cons on here have no consideration for science or reason.

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Re: What Are You Cons Gonna Call Her Now?
Reply #59 - 10/19/18 at 08:38:42

WebsterMark wrote on 10/19/18 at 06:15:48:

This coming from a guy who told me to -
"Better yet, go on Ebay and buy some of Warrens panties and sniff them until you pass out chief "

I missed that. Good one Ray.

Thank you good Sir.

Not often I hit a two-fer.
Scored a direct hit on a loony lady, and in the process of such, forcing others to wad theirs....... Grin

Soon it shall be as shooting fish in a barrel!

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